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Do you consider Islam a threat?
Yes, I definetely do 39%  39%  [ 30 ]
Yes, but only to Europe 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
I'm not sure, I'm in doubt 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
No, not at all 36%  36%  [ 27 ]
I think Islam has some threat, but the danger isn't great 14%  14%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 76

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08 Jul 2009, 1:09 pm

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The "Religious Right" is often seen as a powerful political group, and that is true in the terms of votes in the ballot box, but as an an institution with political clout, it does not exist. They have no ability to make or shape public policy unless people in office are seeking their vote, and even then, EVERY TIME what happens is that they are promised anything they want and after the elections are over, the politicians go back to doing what they've always done...serving the masters to FUNDED their elections (never the religious people in America).


The Muslims will blow things up. Blacks will riot. Christians will hold and "informational picket."
The government is so scared of minority violence that they do everything for them. Besides that, the Religious Right is the base of the Republican party, and they can count on our sure votes no matter what they do otherwise, and there is no chance that we will ever vote Democrat.


I've contended that we need to abolish the two-party system in America because we should do things as Israel does. People vote, parties get representation based on how many people voted for them, if the leader can't form a consensus of government, he can't be the leader.

In America, you have Democrat or Republican. Some say that promotes compromise (which is true to an extent) but the truth is that both parties are owned by the same types of people and ANYONE running third party has no real chance of getting into any meaningful office. Christians go to the Republicans because, as a matter of party platform, they are the more tolerable of the two, but that's what's wrong. If any party could run, the socialists could be socialists, the democrats could be democrats, the republicans could be republicans, etc. and let government get people to work together but have proportional representation rather than people in office who basically say whatever it takes to get votes then do whatever they feel like.



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08 Jul 2009, 1:20 pm

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and brusilov, I think you just spent a whole lot of time in a post demonstrating your complete ignorance of marxism. I cannot be bothered contradicting your inability to actually educate yourself as opposed to swallowing what is spoon fed you. (NEP? I spent a whole lot of time setting Orwell straight on the NEP a few weeks ago, and he's studying history.)


Uh... Okay..... Whatever......... I majored in European History and I know all about Marxism. Too often we confuse opposition and dissent with ignorance. I have "actually educated myself" plenty...... much more so than you IMO. My knowledge of history would crush yours. Marxism and socialism is a joke. Feel free to "set me straight" on the NEP or your buffoonish Fellow Traveler ideology. I am all ears.

I have studied plenty of history, both in an out of the classroom. I was hardly spoon-fed anything. I just arrived at a different conclusion than all of those weak-sister, sissy, apologist, white-guilt liberals.

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contradict on armed invasions


Did you even read my post....... No, of course not. I said it was "little better than an armed invasion." You clearly are too limited to comprehend the even most simple of metaphors or concepts.

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He's studying history.


Wow, he can sit in a classroom and take notes........... He must be some kind of special........ Good for him.

Don't make the mistake of confusing education with indoctrination.

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I cannot be bothered contradicting


Well I am SOOOOOO sorry for the inconvenience or that I couldn't satisfy your stringent standards for approval.

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Brusilov! My father was a Jew!
Brusilov! I kissed a guy!
Brusilov! He was bbbllaaaaaaaccckkkkk!! !! !!


I'm very happy for you that you're some kind of freak.


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multiparty system


I think any multi-party system will eventually realign into a two-party system as the factions make compromises and alliances. It will inevitably drift back to the liberal and conservative poles.



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08 Jul 2009, 4:25 pm

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Yes, but only the fundamentalists. I consider the fundamentalists of any religion to be a threat, and that should have been an option in your poll.


I agree, though in recent years at least fundamentalist Muslims have been more destructive than other fundamentalists. Fundamentalist Christians have been involved in some shootings were 1 or people were killed, one fundamentalist Jew assassinated a prime minister of Israel, India occasionally has problems with fundamentalist Hindus, etc., but religiously motivated terrorist attacks involving thousands of people killed have overwhelmingly been Muslim. Muslim extremists also seem to pose as moderates and use their moderate co-religionists for camouflage more than extremists in other religions.

I don't see Muslim hijacking the culture, as they have begun to in parts of Europe, as being likely in the United States. Christian fundamentalists maybe, though right now I fear Nanny Statists more (you might also say that they are religious fundamentalists who worship at the altar of the state). Of course, if one or European countries (or worse yet Canada) was to fall victim to Sharia law, that would make the world more dangerous for Americans, as well. I believe that the U.S. should stop interfering in other countries internal affairs to a great extent, but at the same time freedom loving Americans and NGOs should support those resisting Islamic takeovers with letters, speeches, public relations campaigns, etc.



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10 Jul 2009, 11:31 am

Yes, Islam is a threat. Any belief system which demands the subjugation and enslavement of non-believers is a serious threat, particularly when followers of that belief system believe to their very core that they are serving a deity, and particularly when those followers are armed with machine guns and explosives.



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13 Jul 2009, 2:07 am

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I believe that the U.S. should stop interfering in other countries internal affairs to a great extent, but at the same time freedom loving Americans and NGOs should support those resisting Islamic takeovers with letters, speeches, public relations campaigns, etc.


Well, we have to fight fire with fire. Writing letters won't cut it. As long as our politicans are scared to death of Islam, they will keep on bending over backwards for them.



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13 Jul 2009, 8:07 am

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I believe that the U.S. should stop interfering in other countries internal affairs to a great extent, but at the same time freedom loving Americans and NGOs should support those resisting Islamic takeovers with letters, speeches, public relations campaigns, etc.


Well, we have to fight fire with fire. Writing letters won't cut it. As long as our politicans are scared to death of Islam, they will keep on bending over backwards for them.

ah fear mongering, best friend of the crazy right wing. Let me guess, we should nuke the entire middle east and round up all muslims in camps, hmmm, sounds so famalir, kinda like 1940 germany. INB4 Gordwin's law. Trust me, christainity is a threat to america, more so then islam, there was a thread were Shadow girl practailly patted the killer on the back for killing an abortion doctor! The christains want psuedo science taught to our kids (creationism, intillegent design, etc) because facts don't agree with their beliefs. Islam today is just what Christains want to do, namely implement a theocracy and punish anyone who dares question it.


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13 Jul 2009, 1:36 pm

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INB4 Gordwin's law


Uh.... You mentioned the Nazis..... You lose. You compared me to the Nazis..... You lose.

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psuedo science taught to our kids (creationThe christains want ism, intillegent design, etc)


Parents have the right to raise their kids how they want. They can choose what influences their kids will be exposed to. If they don't want their kids to be around gang-violence and interracial dating and having to learn that homosexuality is OK, than they have every right to control their learning environment and take the appropriate measures. The government wants to force diversity on us, but never. It is the liberals in this country who are doing the indoctrination and punish anyone who dares question their multiculturalism. Liberals think that they can force their agenda on us because they know what is good for us.

If you have a job and you say anything that a liberal finds even slightly offensive, they will get you fired outright or sent to their "sensitivity training" indoctrination program.

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Trust me, christainity is a threat to america, more so then islam, there was a thread were Shadow girl practailly patted the killer on the back for killing an abortion doctor!


They should stop murdering white babies.

No no, Islam is much more of a threat than Christianity. The most radical Christians only want to be separate, not impose a theocracy. The Muslims want to make this an Islamic country. I am one of the most radical-rightists and I don't give a d**n who or what you worship or if you are gay or straight. I just don't want you imposing your agenda on me.

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ah fear mongering, best friend of the crazy right wing. Let me guess, we should nuke the entire middle east and round up all muslims in camps,


*******8.



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13 Jul 2009, 3:55 pm

never mind, godwin's law doesn't apply because you are a nazi and a racist. Jesus was a jewish zombie, christanity a crutch for the weak minded to comfort themselves. I enjoy have gay sex, and I am more likely to get laid then you. Second, take off your hood and put out your burning cross, we have a black president, so quit whining and go kill yourself. And you, you are rather sad, you blame other people for your failures, you are mad at blacks because your dick is tiny, you are mad at gays because we get laid more then you, and mad at atheists because we are happier in life.


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13 Jul 2009, 3:59 pm

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never mind, godwin's law doesn't apply because you are a nazi and a racist. Jesus was a jewish zombie, christanity a crutch for the weak minded to comfort themselves. I enjoy have gay sex, and I am more likely to get laid then you. Second, take off your hood and put out your burning cross, we have a black president, so quit whining and go kill yourself. And you, you are rather sad, you blame other people for your failures, you are mad at blacks because your dick is tiny, you are mad at gays because we get laid more then you, and mad at atheists because we are happier in life.

You should probably calm down now, as personal attacks are sometimes frowned upon. Leave him be, he doesn't deserve your attention.


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13 Jul 2009, 4:04 pm

I honestly think the reason the "christains" will vanish on judgement day is due to god removing their fail from the world and letting the actualy good people live in peace without some blow hard wingnut spouting his racist ignorance to everyone who cares not for his insecurites.


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13 Jul 2009, 4:13 pm

Oy cognito, watch out. The goal here is not to look as bad as him now is it? :p



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13 Jul 2009, 4:36 pm

Brusilov wrote:
The most radical Christians only want to be separate, not impose a theocracy.

There's a naive view that is totally at variance with reality.

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The Muslims want to make this an Islamic country.

Most don't, but you are given to making sweeping, faulty generalizations, and have done so again.



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13 Jul 2009, 6:07 pm

Islam it's self is not a threat. However extrreemests who want the world to be ruled by Islam are a great threat to the world.



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13 Jul 2009, 6:18 pm

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Islam it's self is not a threat. However extrreemests who want the world to be ruled by Islam are a great threat to the world.

QFT. Though I'd go out on a limb and say that the number of Muslim extremists are heavily exaggerated.


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13 Jul 2009, 10:52 pm

I think any organized religion is a threat especially when it involves conflicts of religion...but I don't believe it is the only motivation behind every war.....


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13 Jul 2009, 11:12 pm

The Muslims do want to make this an Islamic country, like the blacks want this to be a black country and the Mexicans want this to be a Latino country. This is not a sweeping generalization but the reality of trying to coexist with other peoples who are not as "evolved" or tolerant as you all are. They, as a group, do not think like liberal whites do. They take your handouts, eat from your table, laugh at you, and plan your destruction. They love living with milquetoast whites who cater to them.

As Cato said, "Carthage must be destroyed." Most ignore me now but they'll be sorry in 30 years .

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He is not my president and I do not recognize him as such. As some liberals say anyway, he is really the "world president," more so than even the US president. By the time he is done packing the cabinet and supreme court with all of his anti-white minorites like that husky Sotomayor troll............

I show no allegiance to the "New Babylon," the suckling whore of DC(diversity city.)

I pledge indifference to the flag, of the Black states of America,
and to the minority republic, for which it stands
One nation, with no god, divisible,
And with favoritism and preference for minorities.

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Better that than some pasty liberal.