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25 Sep 2009, 10:04 am

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This may sound weird, but Texas was once one of the most liberal states in the U.S. We didn't go red until 1978.

Our governor, Rick Perry, is a textbook neocon. He's not corrupt, he's just really stupid.

That said, the president has no real bearing on certain situations, because Congress is the brains behind the government, not the president.



That's changed. Bush 1.7 took a lot of powers away from the legislative branch and placed them within the executive. Executive orders have almost become decrees from the king. Signing statements seem to grant the president power to state which parts of legislation are law or not. The president can declare war on his own for the most part now.


He might be able to declare war but he seems to be having difficulties declaring peace.



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25 Sep 2009, 11:23 am

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skafather84 wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
This may sound weird, but Texas was once one of the most liberal states in the U.S. We didn't go red until 1978.

Our governor, Rick Perry, is a textbook neocon. He's not corrupt, he's just really stupid.

That said, the president has no real bearing on certain situations, because Congress is the brains behind the government, not the president.



That's changed. Bush 1.7 took a lot of powers away from the legislative branch and placed them within the executive. Executive orders have almost become decrees from the king. Signing statements seem to grant the president power to state which parts of legislation are law or not. The president can declare war on his own for the most part now.


He might be able to declare war but he seems to be having difficulties declaring peace.


Peace is for sissies who don't want to make money.


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25 Sep 2009, 11:33 am

Meh....I think it'll take another 100 years or so before any woman is elected into office.

For now, I think anyone with a below average range of intellegence with elitism on their agenda could be elected at any given moment.

It seems even the majority of democrats lean more toward the conservative party.


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25 Sep 2009, 11:37 am

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Meh....I think it'll take another 100 years or so before any woman is elected into office.

For now, I think anyone with a below average range of intellegence with elitism on their agenda could be elected at any given moment.

It seems even the majority of democrats lean more toward the conservative party.


People can't seem to realize that the Democrats and the Republicans are two loaves of bread baked from the same dough. And there days dough controls everything in politics.



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25 Sep 2009, 11:14 pm

I dont agree the democrats 100 percent but as the saying goes Their poison is the one I can swallow I find the republcans to spew utter neo-con right wind religous garbage.Which just doesn't sit right with me it doesn't fit this day and age.


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26 Sep 2009, 7:52 am

Tim_Tex wrote:

That said, the president has no real bearing on certain situations, because Congress is the brains behind the government, not the president.


If that is so, then the Republic is doomed.

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26 Sep 2009, 9:55 am

The president is primarily the US ambassador to the world and commander in chief of the military. The position doesn't have much real power outside of those two things.


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26 Sep 2009, 10:01 am

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The president is primarily the US ambassador to the world and commander in chief of the military. The position doesn't have much real power outside of those two things.


He's also the final reviewer of all legislation and can pass or veto laws.


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26 Sep 2009, 12:33 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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The president is primarily the US ambassador to the world and commander in chief of the military. The position doesn't have much real power outside of those two things.


He's also the final reviewer of all legislation and can pass or veto laws.


Vetoes can be overriden.

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26 Sep 2009, 12:37 pm

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The president is primarily the US ambassador to the world and commander in chief of the military. The position doesn't have much real power outside of those two things.


He's also the final reviewer of all legislation and can pass or veto laws.


Vetoes can be overriden.

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I know. But, doesn't it require a 2/3 majority?


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26 Sep 2009, 12:47 pm

yes it does. Ironically, the Democrats, who have very close to the 2/3rds majority (what they actually have is 60 votes, which can cut off filibuster, the other great [intentional] timewaster...;) have one of their own in office. We'll see what happens in 11/10



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26 Sep 2009, 12:57 pm

pakled wrote:
yes it does. Ironically, the Democrats, who have very close to the 2/3rds majority (what they actually have is 60 votes, which can cut off filibuster, the other great [intentional] timewaster...;) have one of their own in office. We'll see what happens in 11/10



Yeah...I find it weird that the republicans were able to pass TONS of legislation with a weaker majority in 2000-2006 but the democrats can't muscle through the easy stuff.

Pretty much seems like there's republican-democrats and democrat-democrats.


/or it's all just a puppet show and this is all intentional.


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26 Sep 2009, 8:21 pm

Its because republican are like big babies they dont know how to act like mature indiviuals or take defeat they are extreamly sore losers.How did democrats cope with the bush administrion by making fun of him like there was no tommorow because if we didn't there would wouldn't have been a tommorow.


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27 Sep 2009, 8:16 am

I adore Sarah: no whoopsie marriage, lots of guns, no sex education (c'mon! Never had lessons but have been sh***ing lots of chicks!).



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27 Sep 2009, 10:36 am

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no sex education (c'mon! Never had lessons but have been sh***ing lots of chicks!).


They don't teach about Cleveland steamers in sex ed. They teach about safe sex, contraceptive methods, the various diseases out there and why you should be careful.


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27 Sep 2009, 10:40 am

skafather84 wrote:
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no sex education (c'mon! Never had lessons but have been sh***ing lots of chicks!).


They don't teach about Cleveland steamers in sex ed. They teach about safe sex, contraceptive methods, the various diseases out there and why you should be careful.

You might notice that he wrote "Never had lessons".


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