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24 Oct 2009, 1:34 pm

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Rather invisible yes, corporeal though.


like this?
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wait, I see him!


Wasted two hours to find a funny picture?


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24 Oct 2009, 2:05 pm

yeah, that doesn't even make sense.



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24 Oct 2009, 3:57 pm

It is a bit extreme how lax the security in airports in London is though, I was returning from germany and in england I didn't need to show any identification at all. Noone asked for my passport or anything, all I did was have my bags checked and I was through...



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24 Oct 2009, 4:32 pm

so far as I know you generally only need passports for crossing the EU border on a flight from a non-EU nation, once within EU borders you can move from one state to another without showing your passport, though that doesn't mean leave it at home :D



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24 Oct 2009, 4:44 pm

TitusLucretiusCarus wrote:
so far as I know you generally only need passports for crossing the EU border on a flight from a non-EU nation, once within EU borders you can move from one state to another without showing your passport, though that doesn't mean leave it at home :D


Seems very trusting of other countries' security >.>



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24 Oct 2009, 5:47 pm

I watched QT on Thursday night. I was speaking to a work colleague of mine, a trade union rep, on the phone the following day, and she'd had a lively discussion with her two fellow reps before the program went out. They thought Griffin shouldn't be allowed on, that it was making him look overly 'respectable'; she thought it should be allowed because you cannot censor free speech, because otherwise you just know he'd cry persecution, and anyway, he'd almost certainly say something stupid and make a prat of himself. I agree with her; I don't think he came out of it well, whatever his supporters are saying. (And I don't for one minute think he has nearly as many supporters as he likes to think he does. Believing that immigration - of anyone, from anywhere, of any color - is an issue this country needs to deal with is not the same as thinking everyone non-white should be sent packing.)

Titus has some good points there too - immigrants often bring benefits to the country and basically get treated like sh*t in return. One of the reasons we moved where we are now is that in the town we used to live in, any reasonably priced three-bed houses would get bought up by buy-to-letters and rented out to ten or twelve Portuguese or Poles or Ukrainians at extortionate rates. I know this because my husband's brother has worked with a lot of such guys, and they work darned hard too.)

Incidentally, whether or not Griffin is fat is entirely irrelevant. He's a bigot. He'd still be a bigot if he were thin.


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24 Oct 2009, 7:26 pm

Facts:

1. The holocaust never happened.

2. A woman's place is in the home.

3. The highest IQ ever recorded for a negro was 91.

4. Mormons.

I hope you all had a good laugh at all 4 statements.



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24 Oct 2009, 7:35 pm

protest_the_hero wrote:
Facts:

1. The holocaust never happened.

2. A woman's place is in the home.

3. The highest IQ ever recorded for a negro was 91.

4. Mormons.

I hope you all had a good laugh at all 4 statements.


That doesn't surprise me, must be a trend among kids.

When I was a kid it was really cool to say that the holocaust never existed and then it got old.

Also to deny the holocaust with as much evidence that's been presented are you also going to deny the victims and witness testimonies who saw and experienced it first hand?


BTW, my grandpa was in Germany at the time and got to meet some of the victims of the holocaust. Although he said he wasn't present at the camps he never stopped telling us how emaciated and awful the "prisoners" of war looked.

Anyway let history repeat itself like it usually does....


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24 Oct 2009, 7:46 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
BTW, my grandpa was in Germany at the time and got to meet some of the victims of the holocaust. Although he said he wasn't present at the camps he never stopped telling us how emaciated and awful the "prisoners" of war looked.
So he never even saw the camps. He just believed the Jewish lies hahaha!! ! It almost seems as though you were quoting me under the impression that I was actually denying the holocaust, which would we stupid beyond comprehension.



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24 Oct 2009, 8:21 pm

protest_the_hero wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
BTW, my grandpa was in Germany at the time and got to meet some of the victims of the holocaust. Although he said he wasn't present at the camps he never stopped telling us how emaciated and awful the "prisoners" of war looked.
So he never even saw the camps. He just believed the Jewish lies hahaha!! ! It almost seems as though you were quoting me under the impression that I was actually denying the holocaust, which would we stupid beyond comprehension.


Wait I retract what I just stated.

I just realized you put underneath your factoids...Hope you had a good laugh

Sorry.... >_<


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25 Oct 2009, 12:08 am

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if you think Iranians and Ahmedinejad are anti semitic, then you are blinded by Zionism. Zionism is a mental disorder.

1) Zionism is a political ideology, not a mental disorder
2) I don't really take sides in the whole Israel-Palestine issue, so I'm neither Zionist nor anti-Zionist. I just want people to stop killing each other.
3) Ahmedinejad is an anti-Semite, as are many Iranians.


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25 Oct 2009, 1:28 am

protest_the_hero wrote:
Facts:

1. The holocaust never happened.

2. A woman's place is in the home.

3. The highest IQ ever recorded for a negro was 91.

4. Mormons.

I hope you all had a good laugh at all 4 statements.

What do you have against Mormons?


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25 Oct 2009, 2:38 am

I believe the BNP is maintaining it's core objectives, which a lot of (but not all) consist of acheiveing white racial "purity" in the UK (something I personally find detestable), and I've watched their activities for a while now, as it slid from how it was to how it is now.
Still, this probably did the BNP more good than harm, Griffin struck at the immigration policy, which does have problems, and criticised the wars. Also Jack Straw just failed. I mean to the question "Can the recent success of the BNP be explained by the misguided immigration policy of our government?" he answered no, then waffled on about how the BNP are racist. One of the only reasons the BNP are popular is immigration into UK, it certainly isn't the racist doctrine that got them the votes, most of the British public hate racism in any form.

I think Chris Huhne won this one. He criticised the other parties and approached the issues more.



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25 Oct 2009, 4:41 am

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I don't know what your story is, by the way: self-hating white liberal or ethnic minority with a chip on his shoulder? It's one or the other.
Hmmm, how about a third: I LIKE MULTICULTURALISM.

I'll simply wager this, British cultural was a lot less 'enjoyable' (i.e. how much your average person would likely get out of it) a hundred years ago compared to today. There are many reasons for this but one is multiculturalism. I accept that ethnic background can (via intermediating factors) have an inclining (merely inclining) factor on cultural output. Multiculturalism has added substantial diversity, without sacrificing the quality, providing both good and bad just like prior British culture did.

I fully accept ethnically white British culture (i.e. any culture produced before multiculturalism) has declined thanks to multiculturalism. I'd just be interested to know if you have much knowledge of what that culture was like? Can you point to specific works of culture that benefited from its nationalistic content or being based upon ethnically white culture? Food, music, literature, whatever else, please provide some examples.


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25 Oct 2009, 4:43 am

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... most of the British public hate racism in any form...

Racism doesn't even have a clear definition anymore since the word was hijacked by the left. Most real British people want a predominantly white English-speaking (or some form of Celtic) Britain. They don't have a problem with a few immigrants of whatever colour as long as it doesn't lead to our country being irrevocably changed. What they never signed-up for was for millions of foreigners many of whom can barely speak English to descend on us changing parts of our land beyond recognition, and creating no-go areas for white Britains. The BNP are the only political group who are openly talking about this. If some of them are actually racists in the original sense of the word I really couldn't care. I'd rather be governed by racists who look after my interests than the current bunch of scum who've spent over a decade wrecking this country. Wring your hands in dismay at "racism" and imaginary "fascism" all you want; you can invoke all the irrelevancies from holocaust denial to meetings between Griffin and the KKK that you please, but you can't change the facts: most British people want the immigration problem tackled, and the BNP are the only political group who have the balls to talk openly and constructively about that problem.



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25 Oct 2009, 4:47 am

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Hmmm, how about a third: I LIKE MULTICULTURALISM.

This is Britain. If you want to sample foreign culture then go to Pakistan or Poland for a few weeks.