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What are your religious views?
Christian 26%  26%  [ 32 ]
Muslim 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
Judaism 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Hindu 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Buddhism 4%  4%  [ 5 ]
Taoism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Shinto 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Deism 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
Agnostic 12%  12%  [ 15 ]
Athiest 34%  34%  [ 43 ]
Other 14%  14%  [ 17 ]
Unsure 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 125

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16 Mar 2010, 8:32 am

My religius convictions are a mix of atheism and Ancient Greek religion.


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16 Mar 2010, 8:44 am

If there were no religions atheism wouldn't exist.



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16 Mar 2010, 11:32 am

ZEGH8578 wrote:
can i be a rastafarian?


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26 Mar 2010, 12:54 pm

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26 Mar 2010, 9:31 pm

I'm an atheist. To use the Dawkinian scale of disbelief, I'm a "7-level" when it comes to logically incoherent definitions of God and a "6-level" for more coherent, quasi-deistic definitions.



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26 Mar 2010, 11:09 pm

I'm an agnostic Jew. Chose Judaism in the poll 'cause it reflects best, I think.



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27 Mar 2010, 9:07 am

Sand wrote:
If there were no religions atheism wouldn't exist.


[imitating chumley, the dull walrus from "tennessee tuxedo", an american cartoon]- "umm, i don't get it."
how does belief in a great supernatural being require a religion? i believe in god and i am not religious in the least. i would appreciate a patient explanation.



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27 Mar 2010, 9:39 am

auntblabby wrote:
Sand wrote:
If there were no religions atheism wouldn't exist.


[imitating chumley, the dull walrus from "tennessee tuxedo", an american cartoon]- "umm, i don't get it."
how does belief in a great supernatural being require a religion? i believe in god and i am not religious in the least. i would appreciate a patient explanation.


I assume a belief in a god with no absolute proof or reasonable indication of a god's existence is religion whether it is formal or not.



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27 Mar 2010, 10:19 am

Oh yeah, don't go worrying if you have elements of more than one religion. According to my class, this is a rather "modern" way of religion to adapt and is best described by what we call "subjectivity of the religion". Basicly meaning that you choose your own religion, kind of.

(I'm supposedly a Christian Catholic, but i haven't been to church in years (ah! Mostly because the closest one is being converted in condominiums or the like :p ) yet i still somewhat think my beliefs are closer to buddhism <.< (apparently very common here in Montréal among older men))



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27 Mar 2010, 11:25 pm

I do not believe in a single conscious being who rules all. I believe in Christ, but not as my savior. I believe in an afterlife, but simply because of logic and probability, and I don't claim to know anything about it other than there is one. That puts in the other category. But for the fun of it, I would have to say, as far as ideals go, I would be a satanist. It's the only religion that doesn't oppose every single value I have. I don't believe in it as a religion, but the philosophy is nice.

Before anyone attacks it, read.

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html


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28 Mar 2010, 12:13 am

fidelis wrote:
I do not believe in a single conscious being who rules all. I believe in Christ, but not as my savior. I believe in an afterlife, but simply because of logic and probability, and I don't claim to know anything about it other than there is one. That puts in the other category. But for the fun of it, I would have to say, as far as ideals go, I would be a satanist. It's the only religion that doesn't oppose every single value I have. I don't believe in it as a religion, but the philosophy is nice.

Before anyone attacks it, read.

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html


It depends upon what you accept as a definition of religion.



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28 Mar 2010, 12:28 am

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I am a Catholic, but do not agree with
some of the policies of the Catholic Church.

If I'm excommunicated, I will be more than happy
to convert to Protestantism or Judaism.
My parish sees me and my family as problematic.


It is annoyingly difficult to be excommunicated as the rolls are used as a mark of pride and influence. Go ahead. Try.


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28 Mar 2010, 12:28 am

Sand wrote:
fidelis wrote:
I do not believe in a single conscious being who rules all. I believe in Christ, but not as my savior. I believe in an afterlife, but simply because of logic and probability, and I don't claim to know anything about it other than there is one. That puts in the other category. But for the fun of it, I would have to say, as far as ideals go, I would be a satanist. It's the only religion that doesn't oppose every single value I have. I don't believe in it as a religion, but the philosophy is nice.

Before anyone attacks it, read.

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html


It depends upon what you accept as a definition of religion.


I usually consider a religion a set of beliefs that explain an afterlife. As soon as science does that, I will revise this, but I don't think I will be alive to change this hugely informal definition when it falls apart.


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28 Mar 2010, 12:48 am

fidelis wrote:
Sand wrote:
fidelis wrote:
I do not believe in a single conscious being who rules all. I believe in Christ, but not as my savior. I believe in an afterlife, but simply because of logic and probability, and I don't claim to know anything about it other than there is one. That puts in the other category. But for the fun of it, I would have to say, as far as ideals go, I would be a satanist. It's the only religion that doesn't oppose every single value I have. I don't believe in it as a religion, but the philosophy is nice.

Before anyone attacks it, read.

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html


It depends upon what you accept as a definition of religion.


I usually consider a religion a set of beliefs that explain an afterlife. As soon as science does that, I will revise this, but I don't think I will be alive to change this hugely informal definition when it falls apart.


An afterlife is only one component of religion. A more central one is the belief in a supernatural architecture to the universe demanding a god of one form or another that requires some form of obeisance. It doesn't necessarily mean a formal group organization is involved.



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28 Mar 2010, 1:06 am

Sand wrote:
fidelis wrote:

I usually consider a religion a set of beliefs that explain an afterlife. As soon as science does that, I will revise this, but I don't think I will be alive to change this hugely informal definition when it falls apart.


An afterlife is only one component of religion. A more central one is the belief in a supernatural architecture to the universe demanding a god of one form or another that requires some form of obeisance. It doesn't necessarily mean a formal group organization is involved.


I wouldn't think it would require a formal group. I don't think it requires a god either. The supernatural architect is an important one, but I think an afterlife is the most important one. This is of course a matter of opinion, and I have no real way of backing mine. If you have some form of reasoning to back your opinion I would see no need to hold on to mine, seeing as mine is merely an informal tool for quickly distinguishing between religion and something else. It's just a piece of all religions that is found in nothing else. The definition doesn't really serve me any purpose. Using the definition you just gave though, I would still say that satanism isn't my religion, but rather a philosophy I can agree with.

Are my beliefs considered a religion. I believe in an afterlife, but no god. I give no explanation of this afterlife, because I don't know it. I only know it must be there. Is it a religion Sand, or if it isn't, what is it?


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28 Mar 2010, 1:15 am

fidelis wrote:
Sand wrote:
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I usually consider a religion a set of beliefs that explain an afterlife. As soon as science does that, I will revise this, but I don't think I will be alive to change this hugely informal definition when it falls apart.


An afterlife is only one component of religion. A more central one is the belief in a supernatural architecture to the universe demanding a god of one form or another that requires some form of obeisance. It doesn't necessarily mean a formal group organization is involved.


I wouldn't think it would require a formal group. I don't think it requires a god either. The supernatural architect is an important one, but I think an afterlife is the most important one. This is of course a matter of opinion, and I have no real way of backing mine. If you have some form of reasoning to back your opinion I would see no need to hold on to mine, seeing as mine is merely an informal tool for quickly distinguishing between religion and something else. It's just a piece of all religions that is found in nothing else. The definition doesn't really serve me any purpose. Using the definition you just gave though, I would still say that satanism isn't my religion, but rather a philosophy I can agree with.

Are my beliefs considered a religion. I believe in an afterlife, but no god. I give no explanation of this afterlife, because I don't know it. I only know it must be there. Is it a religion Sand, or if it isn't, what is it?


It seems to me a supernatural architect is merely a definition of a god. If you assume one you assume the other. An afterlife without a god might assume that human consciousness is a phenomena separable from the body and that the consciousness persists in some other form. That would be non-religious but all the evidence that I have seen gives no valid indication of that acceptable to me and various neurological states indicate that consciousness is extremely dependent on the condition of the physical body.