How can someone with Aspergers be left-wing?

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Definitely xenon13.

Actually, I would tend to regard the requirements of most of the racists to be rather extreme. I mean, none of them are economically liberal to any great extent, but most of them want the stringent social controls needed to keep the races in check. (I'm thinking people like Hanotaux, Codarac, and some of the other posters mostly noted for their racism)

I don't think that xenon's worldview fits in very well with democracy. He is extremist. Black and white. And he wants to kill large numbers of the population. That sounds perfect for some form of totalitarianism. I mean, that's the USSR right there.

With ruveyn... well... I see much more explicitly libertarian, and his fascist tendencies just are weird but don't fit in as well into a total picture, so I disregard them.

It is sort of funny as Herbert Spencer wasn't even a Darwinian. I think a lot of people contest Spencer's label as a Social Darwinist as well seeing Richard Hofstadter's work as a misappropriated quotation of Spencer used mostly just to smear his ideology.(Hofstadter was an FDR liberal, and Herbert Spencer was an outright libertarian.) I don't think Spencer fits into ruveyn's views either, as I'd bet that Spencer tends to be more consistently libertarian.

Do you want the right to have an abortion if you get raped or your boyfriend's condom snaps?

Do you want the right to put whatever substances you want in your body without the cops arresting you or bashing your skull in?

Do you think women and men should have equal wages?

Do you want schools to teach what has been scientifically proven instead of religious indoctrination?

Do you think the United States shouldn't be wasting money on a military campaign that has gained it nothing?

Do you think that everyone has the right to medical treatment if they become injured or disabled?


I think that answers your question, OP.
All of those are reasons anyone, aspie or not, would vote for their country's left-wing party.

I haven't heard Xenon13 speak of killing people. I think Sand - when drunk - once typed a satrical post about killing banker or maybe it was Xenon13, but other than that I haven't seen anything authoritarian come out of Xenon13's mouth. He seems pretty much like a run of the mill Democratic Socialist with the occassional polemical rhetorical dressing. I'd say he's pretty left-libertarian.

Okay first of all those are two seperate situations. If a woman or girl gets raped that is something totally different than the boy and girl fooling around and the condom snaps.

In the situation of rape from a Conservative's standpoint we still would want the baby to live. That said I think Castration would be an appropriate punishment for rapists. (Louisanna tried to have that in law but the courts threw it out something about cruel and unusual)

In the situation of boyfriend and girlfriend being irresponsible people should realize there are consequences and the boy should be responsible for child support if the girl decides not to put up the baby for adoption. There is a reason conservatives advocate abstainence.



That is a sticky situation, one example though is drunk drivers as to why there are laws on the books. Also a lot of the drugs that people advocate legalizing does impair a person and can be a danger to other people. That's why it's illegal (or supposed to be) for people to use steroids without a prescription it can cause something known as roid rage (as well as Depression).



Most conservatives feel someone should be payed based on the quality of their work, not their gender.



We also don't want schools to be used to indoctrinate school children to the left wing agenda. (Singing Praise songs to Obama for instance) Not going to get into an argument over how life began because that would be better for its own topic.



To which I have the response: Do you think it is okay to let people fly airplanes into buildings to try to kill civilians and not do something about it?



Emergency rooms were required by law to treat people in the event of a serious injury or an illness BEFORE Obamacare. Btw, a lot more places are going to refuse medicare now thanks to Obamacare because they can't take the losses and stay in business (it costs them more than they are reimbursed).



Actually, and I don't mean to be offensive, Aspies tend to have a hard time reading people and can often be gullable. Because we tend to see things in black and white and are actually very compassionate we tend to end up being duped by people that are skilled at not telling the truth.

When has things really improved huh? The fact is the Left-Wing party want the status quo to remain the same, they view us as a reliable voting block to maintain power.

I seriously doubt "we" are even in the picture in the minds of politicians. Plus you've got it completely backwards. The Right has been duped by Glenn Beck and Fox News into believing they are being duped by "evil big government". If you simply look at who is financing politicians you will see that it is rich people who are trying to preserve the status quo. It's so freaking obvious.

Actually, you can't argue Glenn Beck isn't on to something. The fact is basic math indicates the spending instituted by the Obama Administration is unsustainable. Then there are countries that have collapsed because they spent themselves into oblivian. So we have historical examples coupled with basic adding and subtracting... Unless you want to argue that everything we were taught about addition and subtraction was a lie, there is no other conclusion other than Beck is at least right about the spending problem.

Really, I remember hearing things such as a desire to kill all rich people and businessmen and all of that. Maybe I am mistaken, but he's said a few things that I have marked in my mind as outright nuts.

I mean, "polemical rhetorical dressing"? The dude generally seems nuts. I also see nothing to substantiate "left-libertarian", as I don't see him as having a strong hatred of government, just an unabashed hatred of every single person who disagrees with him politically. I dunno, I just get the feeling that if he ever came into power, I'd be up against the wall.

Aside from comparing the destructive acts of present-day financial capitalists and deficit-reduction fetishists to "terrorists", I don't really remember any extreme statements he makes. Perhaps you could link me to posts where he's called for the execution of businesspeople (because I don't remember any of them), but I don't really see the violence in him.

Could it simply be anarcho-capitalistic paranoia on your part?

Ecstasy, Spice, Marijuana and Hashish cause roid rage and depression? Since when?
I can see keeping hallucinogens and methamphetamines illegal, but that's about the extent of it.


The left would have as much problem with "praise songs" towards any politician as the right. The last politician I remember being taught to "praise" in school was George Washington when I learned about him in elementary school. That said, I have never heard of any public school doing this "praise song" thing you're speaking of.


To which I have the response: did Iraq attack the twin towers?





I think you can speak for yourself on that one.
For example, a gullible person might believe that two politically distant and unrelated nations have enough in common for a third party to declare war on both based on the actions of a person stationed in one of those two countries. A gullible person might also believe that schools are trying to push a certain political agenda with little evidence to back it up.
It's also generally accepted that most politicans on both sides are pretty much trying to play to as broad a group as they can, which leads to a lot of political flip-flopping and general lack of honesty. However, that doesn't mean things still can't get done. Hardly means those politicians are any kind of object of reverence, but in the last election I voted in I did make a point of voting for the lesser of two evils.

The Tea Party wants a culture like the 1920s or 1980s, not the 1950s. If anything, it's ruveyn's closet totalitarian liberals that keep citing the 1950s as good times.

If liberals are closet totalitarians, then Tea Partiers are closet social darwinists who would like to have autistic people die on the streets.

Psychohist, you do know that the "Go-Go '80s" culture of financing stuff with credit rather than savings is the main reason the world's in this crisis, right?

A large government deficit doesn't automatically mean the world is going to end. There's still plenty of people with huge crap loads of $$$ in this country. We've also been at this point before in history.

Also, the majority of the current fiscal deficit came from the bailouts and the stimulus, which were singular emergency spending events.

I know that credit was around long before the 1980s, and also that private credit goes hand in hand with savings, since it's savings that are lent out in the form of credit. If you're talking about government deficits, they were also around long before the 1980s.

I also know that neither of the two main reasons the world is in crisis has anything to do wth the 1980s. The first of those reasons, the housing bubble that was the proximate cause of the 2008 crash, is due to the 1995 amendments to the community reinvestment act that forced the creating of the subprime mortgage market. The second is the response to the initial crash, which involved piecemeal government intervention that undermined the market's confidence in a stable regulatory regime.

If you thought the 1980s had anything to do with this, you might need to educate yourself more on these issues. You could start with this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4