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Kraichgauer
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15 Mar 2011, 12:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Tequila wrote:
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Why is it then that practically every liberal and moderate Muslim I've ever seen interviewed is a Democrat and political liberal?


When you say 'liberal' do you really mean social democratic?

And what about people like Naser Khader in Denmark? He's a right-wing, conservative, classical liberal, integrationist secular Muslim.


I'm talking about the United States.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The further left, statist liberals in the U.S. corresponds -roughly- with social democrats in Europe. What we consider far left in the U.S. is really middle of the road in Europe. Different countries, different political scales. Europeans have much less of a problem with government intervention in the minute aspects of daily life than do people in the United States. Even though we have a welfare state (mostly to benefit corporations) Americans still have a much more individualistic political ideology than do Europeans.

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I had one instructor who taught labor history, and history of the Soviet Union back in my college days, who felt the Swedes would have to put Teddy Kennedy to their far right, were he in their country. Maybe a bit of an exaggeration on his part, but he was trying to illustrate a point.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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15 Mar 2011, 12:52 pm

ruveyn wrote:
The further left, statist liberals in the U.S. corresponds -roughly- with social democrats in Europe. What we consider far left in the U.S. is really middle of the road in Europe. Different countries, different political scales.


Even right-wing eurosceptic protest movements like UKIP would be considered fairly mainstream in the US.