Pic of the day in Israel
Again, I repeat my last post.
There is nothing wrong with being anti-American. Most of the world is these days. There is nothing wrong with being left-wing. Again, most of the world outside America is left-wing.
No, I did not get banned for being anti-American. What a stupid assumption to make from someone who was not involved. All I got was my wrist slapped for insulting another member (I am now friends with the said member) - nothing to do with politics.
I notice you are the only one in this thread actually condoning Israel's actions. You must have something mentally wrong with you to support a massacre. Again, I say it is not a war, it is a massacre.
Are you just a bit morally warped?
Most people who are anti-american are simply jealous of America's dominance. "We overthrow the tyrant to become the tyrant" People hate America to compensate for penile issues.
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Much of the international community, led by the utterly predictable U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, harshly condemned Israel - which responded, perhaps unwisely, by announcing a 48-hour stand-down on aerial strikes.
But Qana did not happen in a vacuum.
Over the past three weeks, at least 150 rockets have been fired into northern Israel from the Lebanese village. Qana was a focal point for the firing of Katyushas at the Israeli towns of Kiryat Shmona and Afula - which already has killed 18 people and wounded hundreds of others.
The specific building that was hit yesterday was apparently sheltering Hezbollah guerrillas - they'd been seen ducking into it after firing their missiles - as well as Katyusha rockets and launchers.
The fact that non-combatants - including children - were inside as well shouldn't surprise: Hezbollah routinely places innocent lives at risk by using civilians as human shields.
The purpose for that is clear enough: To provoke precisely the kind of incident that occurred yesterday - along with the anti-Israel, anti-American hysteria that followed in train.
And why not?
Ten years ago, "international" pressure brought the last major Israeli operation against Hezbollah to an end after artillery shells killed 100 Lebanese civilians in the same town of Qana - which even then was a Hezbollah stronghold.
Second verse, same as the first?
Hezbollah, Iran and Syria hope so.
But if any condemnation is called for, it should be aimed at Israel's tormentors - and at the United Nations itself; the world body has failed utterly to implement its own Resolution 1559, which demanded the disarming of Hezbollah and which in turn would have rendered the Israeli border action unnecessary.
Let's be clear: Any self-respecting nation would do the same in similar circumstances: protect the lives of its citizens, even if it means endangering civilians in adjoining belligerent territory.
Fortunately, President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, despite fierce criticism, have stood fast.
"Our hope for peace for boys and girls everywhere extends across the world," Bush said yesterday - adding that America "is resolved to work for a sustainable peace . . . that will enable [parents] to raise their children in a hopeful world."
That is to say, any political solution that fails to disarm Hezbollah will be a recipe for further violence.
As Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns observed yesterday, "this has not been a good two-and-a-half weeks for Hezbollah from a military point of view, and they've got to be worried about continued Israeli offensive operations."
While it is not altogether clear that the offensive is achieving - or even if it can achieve - its military objectives, there is little doubt that bringing it to a premature conclusion is not going to result in a lasting peace.
Not even close.
The administration yesterday reiterated that point. "We want to avoid a situation where we essentially put a Band-Aid on something," said Burns. "We have to have a sustainable cease-fire. We have to make sure Hezbollah is not allowed to be in a position to strike again."
Wise words.
In the rhetorical firestorm that is building, Washington must not lose sight of the fact that an Israeli defeat now would be a stunning - perhaps turning-point - victory for global terrorism.
And Israel needs to hunker down and complete successfully the distasteful, but absolutely necessary, campaign forced on it by Hezbollah, Syria and Iran.
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offtopic I know but had to write a paper on the origins on anti-semitism for History.....surpsiringly I found most sources point to the fact it was born in the Uk hundreds of years ago and alot of Nazi parties views in WWII agian bear stricking resembalence to some parts of UK history
To the Muslims America is the terrorist. And after seeing how we've allowed and even supported Israel in continuing their onslaught of citizens (not killing Hizbullah like they claim to aim for) I can't blame them.
Although I blame BOTH Jews and Muslims for continuing the hate for each other. They're both to blame for not wanting to cooperate and stop the war. But this last round though Israel was WAY out of line.
I'm an American by the way and not patriotic in the least given our behaviors of these last few years. It's nothing to be proud of.
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You liberals are impossible.
Where in the blue hell do you keep pulling this stuff about Israel targeting civilians on purpose?
Read, and try and understand.
Hezbollah. Intermingles with civilians. To maximize civilian casualties. To forward their propaganda war. Because it's the only way they have a chance. And based on the reaction of way too many of the posters on this board, it's a very effective weapon.
Where in the blue hell do you keep pulling this stuff about Israel targeting civilians on purpose?
Read, and try and understand.
Hezbollah. Intermingles with civilians. To maximize civilian casualties. To forward their propaganda war. Because it's the only way they have a chance. And based on the reaction of way too many of the posters on this board, it's a very effective weapon.
I agree. The Israelis are doing a military duty, and I don't think that non-militants should've been in the building anyways (like those children). Israel is against Hezbollah and not against civilians, otherwise they would have been aiming at strictly civilians instead of militants. It's difficult to spot out the guerillas and militants in the first place since they hide in the desert and they hide among the civilians. That's why people are fleeing out of the country, since they don't want to get killed. There's a definite rule in battle: Anyone who's in the warzone has the possibility of getting killed; there are many civilians in the warzone, and so many civilians may get killed alongside the militants.
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^^^ typical americain way of thinking : kill the whole building/school/hospital/car to kill 1 terrorist SUSPECTED to be inside.,
the civilians in the south are NOT abt to evactuate to other regions due to roads ' destruction , besides the Isreali r targetting every car moving there .
Regards.
by the way for the ignorants , here the definitions of semitic :
1) A language group in the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew and Arabic. 2) description of Middle East peoples that trace their origin from the biblical Noah and his son Shem; these include Jews and Arabs.
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I can put myself in the shoes of Hezbollah troops or the IDF. I'm an atheist and
not racist. If I was born in Israel I would be in the IDF. If I was born in southern
Lebanon I would be in Hezbollah. I would not want to have to kill non-military but
at the end of the day I would do what it takes to end the war(to win). As an
American I tend to side with Israel over Hezbollah. But do not get me wrong I want
the US to have a close friendship with Lebanon. There is a Lebanese man two blocks
from my house with an American flag on his house.
1) A language group in the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew and Arabic. 2) description of Middle East peoples that trace their origin from the biblical Noah and his son Shem; these include Jews and Arabs.
And this is the definitions of anti-semite/anti-semitic
anti-semitic
adj 1: relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism; hating Jews 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: racist, antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti-Semite(a)]
from dictionary.com.....
the civilians in the south are NOT abt to evactuate to other regions due to roads ' destruction , besides the Isreali r targetting every car moving there .
Actually this is the HEZBOLLAH way of thinking. The know they can't confront the IDF head on, so they attack from behind the civillian population. They know when the IDF retaliates, the Lebanese they are standing next to are going to be the ones who are killed. They do this knowing in advance what will happen!!
So much for the idea that Hezbollah is fighting for the Lebanese. These people are sociopaths!!
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>>To the Muslims America is the terrorist.<<
Yes. You know they refer to us as "the crusaders"? This refers to events that happened over a thousand years ago- these people think this is only the latest wave of the crusade!
>>And after seeing how we've allowed and even supported Israel in continuing their onslaught of citizens (not killing Hizbullah like they claim to aim for) I can't blame them.<<
Yes, but two important points.
First, Israel does have the right to exist. Israel was given to the Jews after World War Two, when nearly all of them were wiped out by Hitler. As such, Israel offsets the holocaust... it's a fair deal. Since Hitler and Isreals are equal opposites, everyone has to pick a side of the fence to be on- either with the likes of Hitler, or with fairness. As such, Israel does have a right to exist; this is undeniable.
If I came into your house and killed your entire family but you, you should expect some sort of compensation.
Secondly and more importantly- nearly all of the Middle East was the Ottoman Empire until the end of World War Two! That means most of the lands these fundamental Muslims are killing for wasn't even theirs 70 years ago! And even those parts that weren't part of the Ottoman Empire were still under the control of the Ottomans!
This is like me buying a brand new house on Main Street then declaring war on my neighbor, saying he never should have been there in the first place- this makes no sense!
>>Although I blame BOTH Jews and Muslims for continuing the hate for each other. They're both to blame for not wanting to cooperate and stop the war. But this last round though Israel was WAY out of line.<<
As much as I hate to say it, I really can't blame Israel. Israel has rules, and if you break them, there is a price to pay. If the entire Middle East left Israel alone, Israel wouldn't be invading or occupying anyone.
The same rule applies to America and for that matter, the entire world: as long as you don't invade my country or kill people within my country, I will respect your country. This is the Golden Rule. As overly offensive as Israel is, the fact remains- if no one was attacking them, they wouldn't be attacking back.
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God." -Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect, and author (1743-1826)
Furthermore, no terrorist group has any right to exist in the modern-day world. As much as I want to blame Lebanon for not getting rid of the terrorists as the UN told them to do a year and a half ago the fact remains- if America can't stop terrorism and if Israel which is right next door to Lebanon can't stop terrorists, then how could Lebanon?
What makes terrorism inherently bad is that there is no proclaimed statehood of terrorism... terrorism itself stems from individuals who think differently than the government they live under and this is just plain wrong.
>>I'm an American by the way and not patriotic in the least given our behaviors of these last few years. It's nothing to be proud of.<<
One of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle for independence. -Charles A. Beard, historian (1874-1948)
let me tell u that i am atheist that don't support nor hizb nor the islamic ideologies .....
Hezbollah are committing suicide in facing IDF and they brought destruction because of their foolish .
But we can't negotiane Hezbollah to stop this foolish ..they r stubborn and they think themselves party of god....
besise u can't compare
i am moderate and i was a supporter with the US' concept of freedom in mid-east ....but i feel backstaped by ur gov....it is not by destroying the whole country u bring freedom and justice...
1) A language group in the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew and Arabic. 2) description of Middle East peoples that trace their origin from the biblical Noah and his son Shem; these include Jews and Arabs.
And this is the definitions of anti-semite/anti-semitic
anti-semitic
adj 1: relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism; hating Jews 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: racist, antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti-Semite(a)]
from dictionary.com.....
again anti-semtic means anti-jews and arabs ...jews and and arabs are descends from the same semetic race ... this is a historical fact ....like it or don't like it but still a fact.
They're not just commiting suicide, they're intentionally causing the deaths of the Lebanese by launching thier attacks from within civilian areas.
Hezbollah should die a horroble death for what they've done to Lebenon.
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