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11 Apr 2011, 9:37 pm

Actually...We probably shouldn't build a country on sand.



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11 Apr 2011, 9:37 pm

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Hmm... The floating island idea would probably be lousy for agriculture


Fish farms!

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11 Apr 2011, 9:39 pm

not to mention almost free energy as hydro and wind power would be abundant
fish farms already produce more fish than natural fishing so it would be possible.
on top there is loads of aquatic plants used in cooking, we could become a sushi nation like no other!!


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11 Apr 2011, 9:44 pm

If I had the money I would gladly build myself a Seastead. My concept would involve four tall pontoons, each of which would also be a house. They would be arranged in a square pattern with one at each corner. Four families could live here, and the interior would be netted off and basically be a fish farm with kelp, seaweed & mussels ('attached' to columns dispersed throughout the farm) to create a micro-environment. There could be solar panels as well as turbines utilizing the ocean tides to also generate electricity. That's just off the top of my head, there are obviously more details that would need to be worked out. The interior area could also have a platform above the farm that could be a helipad/grassy area with a few trees (away from the helicopter landing zone, obviously). There would also need to be a desalinization plant to create fresh water to drink/bathe/etc, and a good recycling system (possibly based off of the one on the ISS) to make full use of the resources. I can picture people hooking up these seasteads together to build cities, or just going it alone. Preferably away from Somalian waters, as pirates could be a problem eventually


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11 Apr 2011, 9:45 pm

No fish in the ocean in 40 years...

I think our island should be O shaped...

Hmm...no, let's not build on sand.



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11 Apr 2011, 9:51 pm

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If I had the money I would gladly build myself a Seastead. My concept would involve four tall pontoons, each of which would also be a house. They would be arranged in a square pattern with one at each corner. Four families could live here, and the interior would be netted off and basically be a fish farm with kelp, seaweed & mussels ('attached' to columns dispersed throughout the farm) to create a micro-environment. There could be solar panels as well as turbines utilizing the ocean tides to also generate electricity. That's just off the top of my head, there are obviously more details that would need to be worked out. The interior area could also have a platform above the farm that could be a helipad/grassy area with a few trees (away from the helicopter landing zone, obviously). There would also need to be a desalinization plant to create fresh water to drink/bathe/etc, and a good recycling system (possibly based off of the one on the ISS) to make full use of the resources. I can picture people hooking up these seasteads together to build cities, or just going it alone. Preferably away from Somalian waters, as pirates could be a problem eventually


I like it.

We would need to finance our country somehow. (Once it was up and running) Fish farms seem to be a good option. A lot of research would be needed.



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11 Apr 2011, 10:03 pm

my hopes would be that such a city would become a safe haven for intelectual pursuits, not saying it would be requirement but it qould certaily be interesting.
it could also provide a certain amount of revenue, couple that with export goods it might be possible.

building a city economically could be done with foam covered in conrete, it has shown amazing performance in dutch houseboats as a floating ofundation, i think the four leg idea is interesting but i would have scaled it up a little,
making a large circle with arcs extending from the four legs to make a dome providing a large space for a more conventional "city". the legs would house manufacturing and engineering as the heavy machinery would provide ballast for riding out rough weather.


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11 Apr 2011, 10:05 pm

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If I had the money I would gladly build myself a Seastead. My concept would involve four tall pontoons, each of which would also be a house. They would be arranged in a square pattern with one at each corner. Four families could live here, and the interior would be netted off and basically be a fish farm with kelp, seaweed & mussels ('attached' to columns dispersed throughout the farm) to create a micro-environment. There could be solar panels as well as turbines utilizing the ocean tides to also generate electricity. That's just off the top of my head, there are obviously more details that would need to be worked out. The interior area could also have a platform above the farm that could be a helipad/grassy area with a few trees (away from the helicopter landing zone, obviously). There would also need to be a desalinization plant to create fresh water to drink/bathe/etc, and a good recycling system (possibly based off of the one on the ISS) to make full use of the resources. I can picture people hooking up these seasteads together to build cities, or just going it alone. Preferably away from Somalian waters, as pirates could be a problem eventually


I like it.

We would need to finance our country somehow. (Once it was up and running) Fish farms seem to be a good option. A lot of research will be needed.


We could perhaps invest in robotic mining on the sea floor. There are untold riches on the sea floor. There is actually a company that is currently in the process of starting up- unless it went defunct in the past 2 years since I read about it. Provide them with permanent places to inhabit their workers and give them service infrastructure, in return get some good rent and also jobs with the company. Ah I love speculating. Whatever Seastead you choose to inhabit/build wouldn't have any government other then the one you choose to create (or not create)- an interesting experiment in different ways of managing society.


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12 Apr 2011, 12:53 pm

I think we would need to read books..


...lots of books...



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12 Apr 2011, 4:00 pm

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I think we would need to read books..


...lots of books...


That is basically my favorite past time so I'm down :D


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13 Apr 2011, 10:01 am

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I'll support a separate aspie country but only if it's located in a secret base on the moon.


The Lunar version of Galt's Gulch.

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13 Apr 2011, 8:22 pm

I think they are going to begin populating the moon...so it is an option. :P



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15 Apr 2011, 7:03 am

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I think they are going to begin populating the moon...so it is an option. :P


Who is "they". The U.S. government is useless. And if you are not Chinese you will not be going up on a Chinese vessel.

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15 Apr 2011, 7:15 am

ruveyn wrote:
Noob wrote:
I think they are going to begin populating the moon...so it is an option. :P


Who is "they". The U.S. government is useless. And if you are not Chinese you will not be going up on a Chinese vessel.

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Google and Branson have discussed it, I think.



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15 Apr 2011, 7:16 am

Noob wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Noob wrote:
I think they are going to begin populating the moon...so it is an option. :P


Who is "they". The U.S. government is useless. And if you are not Chinese you will not be going up on a Chinese vessel.

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Google and Branson have discussed it, I think.


talk is cheap hot air. Where are the results?

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15 Apr 2011, 7:53 am

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We could let a few NTs in...I suppose.
(After extreme testing/some dissecting may also be necessary)

I'm thinking Chad...to begin with.


I have not read the rest of the posts, predominately because your question raises my ire. Why do you think that those of us with an ASD are so bloody superior. I for one think this belief in "aspie superiority/elitism" to be foolish in the extreme and is basically a tool to shield the believers from the truth of our glaring inadequacies. A state comprised of predominately "aspies" would be one of self righteous petty squabbles, tantrums, decisions delayed by infinite debate over minutia, and society based upon isolation.


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