Does the government own your vagina?

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MCalavera
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10 Apr 2011, 7:47 pm

Th thought of me having a vagina instead of a penis makes me shiver with disgust.

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10 Apr 2011, 7:50 pm

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Th thought of me having a vagina instead of a penis makes me shiver with disgust.

I hear watching Oprah and/or listening to Enya can cause your penis to suck back into your body and become a vagina. You have been warned

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10 Apr 2011, 7:56 pm

Vigilans wrote:

I hear watching Oprah and/or listening to Enya can cause your penis to suck back into your body and become a vagina. You have been warned

That's an urban myth. When you watch enough Oprah, you lose all your brain cells and become a zombie because of all the bad science and stupidity on the show, like this brilliant clip:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY4rEFbY7n8[/youtube]

I don't understand this dialect of English. She seems to have a headache from having too many thoughts at one time in her head. The picture is really good too.

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10 Apr 2011, 8:20 pm

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They are both the parents. Why is the responsibility not split equally?

Because men don't get pregnant. Women do. Thought that was self-evident.

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10 Apr 2011, 9:04 pm

Everyone: read The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood. The conservatives of America are crafting their future plans from this book, or at least that's what it feels like. It's scary.

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10 Apr 2011, 9:14 pm

They don't need to keep track of every pregnancy. Just don't allow doctors to legally do it unless medically necessary; prosecute the ones that do and take their medical license away. It would decrease for sure. Would there be black market abortions? Probably, but there is black market murder and slavery too.

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10 Apr 2011, 9:20 pm

Jacoby wrote:

Exactly.

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10 Apr 2011, 9:22 pm

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I'd certainly buy Coffee Stock were the Fetus Fetishists to successfully criminalize abortion.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:02 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

A counter argument is: Are you property of your parents?

Dunno about that. But my dad OWNS your dad.

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Exactly.

What about mothers trying to intentionally cause a miscarriage? They may not get to do it. But attempt of murder is a crime!

At the very least, jail potential mothers to prevent this.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:08 pm

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What about mothers trying to intentionally cause a miscarriage? They may not get to do it. But attempt of murder is a crime!

A Southern state (I believe it was either Georgia or Alabama, but I could be mistaken) recently attempted to institute such a law, where the police would have to investigate all miscarriages to ascertain that they were not intentional.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:13 pm

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Probably, but there is black market murder and slavery too.

That's the exact problem with turning arbitrary morality into laws. Make abortion illegal. Make drugs illegal. Make junk food illegal. You are just going to handle a monopoly to criminals. And the criminals will use the money they earn from this monopoly to invest in other things and expand their markets. That means more murder and slavery.

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They are both the parents. Why is the responsibility not split equally?

One has to carry the child, be a healthy host, go through the risk of birth and then breast feed it. Nature itself does not want to split the responsibility equally.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:13 pm

Orwell wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

What about mothers trying to intentionally cause a miscarriage? They may not get to do it. But attempt of murder is a crime!

I thought it was Mississippi?

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10 Apr 2011, 10:15 pm

*falls over* How did I miss this one!?

I can say as the owner of a vagina, that I do not want anyone but myself and a doctor of my choosing having any say in what happens with my uterus.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:22 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

What about mothers trying to intentionally cause a miscarriage? They may not get to do it. But attempt of murder is a crime!

I thought it was Mississippi?

Georgia, according to Google.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:24 pm

Orwell wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

What about mothers trying to intentionally cause a miscarriage? They may not get to do it. But attempt of murder is a crime!

I thought it was Mississippi?

Georgia, according to Google.

Ah, I guess it just sounds like a Mississippi kind of thing to do.

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10 Apr 2011, 10:28 pm

Why does the topic title say "vagina" rather than "uterus"? I hadn't heard that anyone waited until the fetus/child was in the vagina to decide on an abortion.

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