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14 Apr 2011, 8:39 pm

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I didn't miss your point, I just don't agree with it, and made my own point. I know you're all individuals, but someone with those kind of views just does my head in. Its like if someone is for fox hunting, I don't care about the rest of their personality, but with them I won't just get a little bit wound up about them being silly, i'd be willing to stand in front of them and die, and if I got my hands on them, show them how torture feels.


No, you really did miss the point. Not all feminists are out there fighting for women's lib. Some of us are stay at home moms that submit to our husbands.


I think thats your own point. And I know that. When I say most or some, that doesn't mean all!! ! And i'm the one who sees things in black and white? Jeesh.


Yeah... okay. I don't have the energy to correct you for now.


Correct me so you agree with it? There seems to be a difference here, me saying I don't like certain people's views, and you telling me what my views are. I know that femminists don't = man haters, ok? And that a femminist can be a stay at home mum, and a loving wife. Didn't you say you were trans?


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14 Apr 2011, 8:42 pm

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I don't think Benjiman knows what a feminist is. It's not a "man hater" its in favour of a political movement of equal rights in society for women and men.


I've learned to ignore this debate here on WP. Clearly, men are more capable of defining feminism than the women that support it. :?


It bothers me though. He should use the correct terms. If he means "man hater" he should say "man hater"


A lot of men here seem to think feminism = misandry
Its wrong, but I don't know how we can change their minds..


He's called me a "feminist" in the past. Although I am one, I am not one who hates men, when that is actually what he is accusing me of. I simply don't trust them because the way i've been treated by them. Doesn't mean there aren't nice ones out there.


I get the impression from my interactions that Mr. Breeg sees things in very black & white termsI'm sorry you've been mistreated by men before :( ... I'm glad you still think some of us are okay though :)


Thats horse crap. Its usually a case of me not explaining what I mean enough so all can understand. Or people just get the wrong idea in general, probably by only seeing things in black and white.


Your attitudes on marijuana and feminism seem to point in the direction of that claim not being horse crap, but I'm not really interested in pursing that dialogue


I think I just upset you cause I didn't agree with you that weed is the key to fixing the worlds economy and problems :lol: Maybe my views on drugs are black and white, but then again it was me saying things were complicated with them, so.


I never said that it would 'solve all the worlds problems', nor was I upset. Don't put words into my mouth. I was offended that you used to drive around stoned like a total moron, and I was also offended by the lack of respect you showed the various contributors in that thread


I was kidding, but some of the people seemed to think that, which is just their own theory. And I seemed to get jumped on for not agreeing with them. I didn't see you get very offended when they showed me a lack of respect in that manner. And i'm pretty sure I started off by attacking drugs, and they then attacked me.


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14 Apr 2011, 8:45 pm

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Yeah... okay. I don't have the energy to correct you for now.


Correct me so you agree with it? There seems to be a difference here, me saying I don't like certain people's views, and you telling me what my views are. I know that femminists don't = man haters, ok? And that a femminist can be a stay at home mum, and a loving wife. Didn't you say you were trans?


Nice try. Your lying just isn't important enough to me. Papa Roach trumps you any day.


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14 Apr 2011, 8:47 pm

Whats the deal with pot? It is bad because society has brainwashed you into thinking its bad. Do you have the same views on alcohol and tobacco?



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14 Apr 2011, 8:50 pm

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Yeah... okay. I don't have the energy to correct you for now.


Correct me so you agree with it? There seems to be a difference here, me saying I don't like certain people's views, and you telling me what my views are. I know that femminists don't = man haters, ok? And that a femminist can be a stay at home mum, and a loving wife. Didn't you say you were trans?


Nice try. Your lying just isn't important enough to me. Papa Roach trumps you any day.


Ignoring my questions trumps nothing.


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14 Apr 2011, 8:50 pm

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Whats the deal with pot? It is bad because society has brainwashed you into thinking its bad. Do you have the same views on alcohol and tobacco?


He thinks that because he couldn't maintain sane levels of smoking, and because he drove around stoned (thereby expressing careless disregard for others and himself), and because whatever fuckups he used to hang out with also went down the stupid road, nobody else should be allowed to smoke pot

@benjaminbreeg: I do take issue with people being disrespectful, but when it is being done in response to personal slights, I don't see much wrong with it
You mostly got jumped on because you turned peoples words around in weak attempts at trying to insult them. There are reasonable ways to argue about the legalization/decriminalization issue, and you followed none of them


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14 Apr 2011, 8:54 pm

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Yeah... okay. I don't have the energy to correct you for now.


Correct me so you agree with it? There seems to be a difference here, me saying I don't like certain people's views, and you telling me what my views are. I know that femminists don't = man haters, ok? And that a femminist can be a stay at home mum, and a loving wife. Didn't you say you were trans?


Nice try. Your lying just isn't important enough to me. Papa Roach trumps you any day.


Ignoring my questions trumps nothing.

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14 Apr 2011, 8:57 pm

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Whats the deal with pot? It is bad because society has brainwashed you into thinking its bad. Do you have the same views on alcohol and tobacco?


:roll: I dunno, has maybe society brainwashed you into you thinking you have it worse off as a female? I used to smoke a lot of pot myself, people take it too lightly "ugh, its just a joint, its good for ya". I just know from personal experience, and seeing others around me, going down the drug path can be a bad idea. If someone can just smoke the odd joint etc and enjoy it, I have nothing against that. I think its our modern society thats the problem, not the drink and drugs. So many people in this country live the same week over and over. Work in the day, drink at night, then more drink on the weekend. I'm not really sure what I think about tobacco/nicotine.


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14 Apr 2011, 9:01 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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Whats the deal with pot? It is bad because society has brainwashed you into thinking its bad. Do you have the same views on alcohol and tobacco?


He thinks that because he couldn't maintain sane levels of smoking, and because he drove around stoned (thereby expressing careless disregard for others and himself), and because whatever f**** he used to hang out with also went down the stupid road, nobody else should be allowed to smoke pot

@benjaminbreeg: I do take issue with people being disrespectful, but when it is being done in response to personal slights, I don't see much wrong with it
You mostly got jumped on because you turned peoples words around in weak attempts at trying to insult them. There are reasonable ways to argue about the legalization/decriminalization issue, and you followed none of them


I think you're just being blind to the fact you're biast towards pot and its smokers. I attacked drugs, people attacked me. Before I "turned people's words around". So I can't see how you and your friends attacking me cause you didn't like my views, is reasonable. I just defended myself, which isn't always easy when its 4/5 against 1.


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14 Apr 2011, 9:27 pm

Nicotine is actually worse than pot.



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14 Apr 2011, 9:38 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
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Whats the deal with pot? It is bad because society has brainwashed you into thinking its bad. Do you have the same views on alcohol and tobacco?


He thinks that because he couldn't maintain sane levels of smoking, and because he drove around stoned (thereby expressing careless disregard for others and himself), and because whatever f**** he used to hang out with also went down the stupid road, nobody else should be allowed to smoke pot

@benjaminbreeg: I do take issue with people being disrespectful, but when it is being done in response to personal slights, I don't see much wrong with it
You mostly got jumped on because you turned peoples words around in weak attempts at trying to insult them. There are reasonable ways to argue about the legalization/decriminalization issue, and you followed none of them


I think you're just being blind to the fact you're biast towards pot and its smokers. I attacked drugs, people attacked me. Before I "turned people's words around". So I can't see how you and your friends attacking me cause you didn't like my views, is reasonable. I just defended myself, which isn't always easy when its 4/5 against 1.


:? I'm biased against irresponsible pot smokers, like you were, if anything. Believing that legalization is the solution, and offering sound reasons why I believe that, does not imply bias. And from the beginning, pretty much, you were rude to people. Your bias is grounded in your bad experiences and choices, and your disregard for others. I don't expect you're going to acknowledge that, so I'll leave you be, because I really could care less what some drooler who drives around burning joints, disregarding the lives of others, and disrespecting others in discussion, thinks. That, is bias :)

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Nicotine is actually worse than pot.

As is alcohol, and half the prescription drugs the government is willing to peddle blindly


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14 Apr 2011, 10:50 pm

It's a total control thing. People think that illegal drugs are "wrong" and legal ones are "fine" because of brainwashing in societies, governemnts and schools. This earth is owned by all of us, and they have no right to ban a plant. Flat out no right. It exists naturally. I've never smoked pot but I would not feel guilty if I did.

People poison themselves on a daily basis with alcohol, misuse it, and then get raped and s**t. You honestly can't say thats better than pot.



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15 Apr 2011, 11:35 am

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I just ignore those wars and mind my own business.


Best way to be.


So you admit that ignoring it is best, and do so by starting a thread on the topic? :lol:

This has turned into a debate and as such is going to PPR.


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15 Apr 2011, 12:05 pm

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Nicotine is actually worse than pot.


Not in every way. At least it doesn't increase people's paranoia to the point where they won't let their partner out the house. Or increase their laziness so they have more reason to stay at home spounging off the goverment. Thats what happens here a lot anyway. Maybe things are different in Vig's emerald city.


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15 Apr 2011, 12:12 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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Whats the deal with pot? It is bad because society has brainwashed you into thinking its bad. Do you have the same views on alcohol and tobacco?


He thinks that because he couldn't maintain sane levels of smoking, and because he drove around stoned (thereby expressing careless disregard for others and himself), and because whatever f**** he used to hang out with also went down the stupid road, nobody else should be allowed to smoke pot

@benjaminbreeg: I do take issue with people being disrespectful, but when it is being done in response to personal slights, I don't see much wrong with it
You mostly got jumped on because you turned peoples words around in weak attempts at trying to insult them. There are reasonable ways to argue about the legalization/decriminalization issue, and you followed none of them


I think you're just being blind to the fact you're biast towards pot and its smokers. I attacked drugs, people attacked me. Before I "turned people's words around". So I can't see how you and your friends attacking me cause you didn't like my views, is reasonable. I just defended myself, which isn't always easy when its 4/5 against 1.


:? I'm biased against irresponsible pot smokers, like you were, if anything. Believing that legalization is the solution, and offering sound reasons why I believe that, does not imply bias. And from the beginning, pretty much, you were rude to people. Your bias is grounded in your bad experiences and choices, and your disregard for others. I don't expect you're going to acknowledge that, so I'll leave you be, because I really could care less what some drooler who drives around burning joints, disregarding the lives of others, and disrespecting others in discussion, thinks. That, is bias :)

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Nicotine is actually worse than pot.

As is alcohol, and half the prescription drugs the government is willing to peddle blindly


You seem obsessed about what I used to do, why don't you have as your sig "benjimanbreeg used to drive while stonned" Somehow that makes my views unworthy to you, and its the only thing you have to go on. People make mistakes, thats good if you've not made any in your life. Doing mushrooms or heroin is hugely irresponsible, especially mushrooms or acid if you're not gonna have someone sober looking out for you, I didn't see you raise any concern about others doing that in the thread. And with hal and tea saying what you put in your body is up to you, well it is. But when you start stealing off your family and commiting roberry to feed your habit, it isn't.


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15 Apr 2011, 12:14 pm

MidlifeAspie wrote:
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I just ignore those wars and mind my own business.


Best way to be.


So you admit that ignoring it is best, and do so by starting a thread on the topic? :lol:

This has turned into a debate and as such is going to PPR.


I just wanted to point out what causes a lot of the arguments on this site.

Shall we just put every thread in the PPR?


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