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29 Apr 2011, 9:44 am

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I think that Canada, for one, has been very well served by its constitutional monarchy.

I have no objection to a discussion of constitutional reform, but no one has yet demonstrated to me what we could replace the Crown with that would be superior.

Do we need a Head of State? I think the answer to that question is a resounding, "Yes!" The Prime Minister's use of Royal Prerogative in twice proroging and once dissolving Parliament when it was convenient for him demonstrates that there should be someone to whom the Prime Minister should have to go cap-in-hand. While the Governor-general did not deny him on these requests, what about if he winds up with a plurality on Monday and then loses a vote of confidence on his Throne Speech? Should it be up to him alone to decide whether to have another election hot on the heels of this one?

So if we need a Head of State, what is the method of selection? In the vast majority of Parliamentary democracies (India, Germany, Israel, Italy, etc.) the President is indirectly elected by Parliament or an electoral college. Such a Head of State has, like the Queen or the Governor-general, no political mandate. But we have replaced one type of élitism with another, slighty less objectionable one. But what have we gained thereby?

A Head of State directly elected would cost far more than the Governor-general, and would have a political mandate that was greater than the Prime Minister's. This latter is an intolerable position in a Parliamentary democracy and would require a complete reevaluation of our constitutional structure. Would Ministers be answerable to Parliament or to the elected Head of State?

I'm all for a constitutional debate on the subject--but I do not believe that the case has yet been made that change is needful.


Not for a US republic topic

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29 Apr 2011, 1:52 pm

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Reform for within the great unwashed family has gone out the window. Billy the fish did tell his grandmother Brenda to do one over giving him a peerage. Grandmother knows best has she has been stilling the great UK loo of 59 years now.

Now the next tax payer funder party is next year the Diamond Jubilee, Brenda's 60th year on the toilet.


Who is Brenda?

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29 Apr 2011, 1:58 pm

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Reform for within the great unwashed family has gone out the window. Billy the fish did tell his grandmother Brenda to do one over giving him a peerage. Grandmother knows best has she has been stilling the great UK loo of 59 years now.

Now the next tax payer funder party is next year the Diamond Jubilee, Brenda's 60th year on the toilet.


Who is Brenda?

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29 Apr 2011, 9:17 pm

Royal weddings have little to do with politics and very much to do with fairy tales. You grow up on stories like Cinderella, only to discover that princes don't exist much in real life. But here is a woman, a commoner like us even, who actually grew up and married a prince charming. What lovely theater!

Which I guess is all going to resonate a lot more for women than men of any neurology, but there you go, that's why we watch.

They seem genuinely happy. Now THAT is a fairy tale!


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29 Apr 2011, 9:26 pm

Weddings are essentially magic rituals.


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29 Apr 2011, 11:46 pm

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Weddings are essentially magic rituals.

Proof enough that there is yet magic in the world.



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30 Apr 2011, 12:01 am

I thought it was great...

had to sleep early for work last night but caught up today after work, and it was quite a spectacle. I wish them a happy marriage!


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30 Apr 2011, 12:14 am

And if they cheat like crazy hopefully neither of them get caught.


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30 Apr 2011, 2:31 am

ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRED ABOUT BRITISH KINGS AND QUEENS IS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF POLITICS.....SOMETHING I WISH OUR KING, HRH OBAMA, WOULD DO



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30 Apr 2011, 2:35 am

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ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRED ABOUT BRITISH KINGS AND QUEENS IS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF POLITICS.....SOMETHING I WISH OUR KING, HRH OBAMA, WOULD DO


Yeah, if only the President (politician) would just not get involved in any politics


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30 Apr 2011, 2:44 am

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ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRED ABOUT BRITISH KINGS AND QUEENS IS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF POLITICS.....SOMETHING I WISH OUR KING, HRH OBAMA, WOULD DO


Yeah, if only the President (politician) would just not get involved in any politics


I am convinced that there must be a logic gene in the brain and that it is most assuredly missing in liberals. How else could one explain the phenomenon of someone looking at history, be confronted with facts and then completely ignore it all and arrive at a screwball conclusion devoid of any logical explanatio­n?



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30 Apr 2011, 2:55 am

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ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRED ABOUT BRITISH KINGS AND QUEENS IS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF POLITICS.....SOMETHING I WISH OUR KING, HRH OBAMA, WOULD DO


Yeah, if only the President (politician) would just not get involved in any politics


I am convinced that there must be a logic gene in the brain and that it is most assuredly missing in liberals. How else could one explain the phenomenon of someone looking at history, be confronted with facts and then completely ignore it all and arrive at a screwball conclusion devoid of any logical explanatio­n?


You seem to be describing exactly what 99% of your posts are. Are you sure you're not one of these mysterious 'liberals' you are so afraid of?


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30 Apr 2011, 3:44 am

If I were inclined to thank Deities, I would thank G-D I live in a Republic.

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30 Apr 2011, 8:12 am

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ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRED ABOUT BRITISH KINGS AND QUEENS IS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF POLITICS.....SOMETHING I WISH OUR KING, HRH OBAMA, WOULD DO


Your wrong there the royal family dones poke the nose into politics. The Queen meets with the Prime Minster on a weekly baseus.



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30 Apr 2011, 9:24 am

Royal jelly topic

Wedding is over. Move on, nothing more to see. 8) :lol:


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30 Apr 2011, 10:49 am

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ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRED ABOUT BRITISH KINGS AND QUEENS IS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF POLITICS.....SOMETHING I WISH OUR KING, HRH OBAMA, WOULD DO


Yeah, if only the President (politician) would just not get involved in any politics
Also wish social Darwinist pseudo-libertarians wouldn't.


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