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24 Sep 2011, 7:25 am

blauSamstag wrote:
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Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.



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24 Sep 2011, 9:33 am

It's just too much to ask. The fact is, people are gonna have sex.



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24 Sep 2011, 9:38 am

pandabear wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.
He didn't get it.


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24 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

laffhaqq wrote:
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If you can't contain yourself, then just get married. The worst that can happen is it ends in divorce, which is terrible in it's own right, but at least you tried, and you have avoided fornication (the entire purpose of your abstinence, I presume.)



This snippet right here explains why I think abstinence until marriage can be a bad idea. It encourages people to enter marriage because they can't contain themselves, rather than because they want to spend the rest of their lives with that person. I think divorce is considerably worse for people psychologically than sex before marriage. Sometimes divorce is necessary (examples given from other posters in this thread who are better off divorced). But it should never be thought of as the preferable alternative to sex before marriage. The emotional fallout is just too huge to treat it so lightly.



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24 Sep 2011, 2:17 pm

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There is nothing wrong with being abstinent, but it is difficult, even more so in a within a culture that glamorizes and obsesses over sex. If you can't contain yourself, then just get married. The worst that can happen is it ends in divorce, which is terrible in it's own right, but at least you tried, and you have avoided fornication (the entire purpose of your abstinence, I presume.) Go for someone that is compatible in personality, shares similar values as yourself, and that shares a mutual attraction - you don't have to be 'in love' to get married. That is a demented concept - love comes after marriage if the compatibility exists. I know you Christians don't exactly approach marriage the same way we Muslims do, but it is extraordinarily doubtful that God would rebuke you for pursuing marriage on these terms. We might have a slight disadvantage in finding a compatible spouse here in America, because let's face it, there are many more of you here than us. That doesn't mean that our way of approaching marriage would not benefit a Christian, especially if one finds difficulty in remaining abstinent. Doesn't sound like that is your problem though, but just sayin'.

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24 Sep 2011, 5:56 pm

jc6chan wrote:
What's so bad about abstinence?

Nothing.

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Abstinence only works if it's a conscious choice and you don't repress sexual urges. For most people this isn't a viable option because it would invariably involve respression of urges (i.e. masturbation and hobbies do not fullfill all sexual cravings).

Masturbation doesn't?



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24 Sep 2011, 6:15 pm

pandabear wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.


:roll:

Actually, I was referring to something said in a Garfield Comic Strip, either in the Book 1 or Book 2 compilation of Garfield Comics.

The comic strip in question had to do with Jon Arbuckle hitting on Liz, and Liz replied with something similar to what I did.



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24 Sep 2011, 7:20 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.


:roll:

Actually, I was referring to something said in a Garfield Comic Strip, either in the Book 1 or Book 2 compilation of Garfield Comics.

The comic strip in question had to do with Jon Arbuckle hitting on Liz, and Liz replied with something similar to what I did.


:roll:

That doesn't change the fact that you were once again compared to Hitler.



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24 Sep 2011, 7:46 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.


:roll:

Actually, I was referring to something said in a Garfield Comic Strip, either in the Book 1 or Book 2 compilation of Garfield Comics.

The comic strip in question had to do with Jon Arbuckle hitting on Liz, and Liz replied with something similar to what I did.


:roll:

That doesn't change the fact that you were once again compared to Hitler.


Pandabear I already know you and blauSamstag are given to gross exagerations and smear campaigns, and not just directed towards me.



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24 Sep 2011, 7:57 pm

nothing untruthfull in teh statement,
the reasons for uttering it can be questioned


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24 Sep 2011, 7:57 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.


:roll:

Actually, I was referring to something said in a Garfield Comic Strip, either in the Book 1 or Book 2 compilation of Garfield Comics.

The comic strip in question had to do with Jon Arbuckle hitting on Liz, and Liz replied with something similar to what I did.


:roll:

That doesn't change the fact that you were once again compared to Hitler.


Pandabear I already know you and blauSamstag are given to gross exagerations and smear campaigns, and not just directed towards me.


:roll:

Yes, but where is your stock response?



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24 Sep 2011, 8:19 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

Normally with a sexed crazed animal such as yourself I would perscribe neutering.


You know who else favored compulsory sterilization?


How did Inuyasha miss this? He just loves it when people compare him to Hitler.


:roll:

Actually, I was referring to something said in a Garfield Comic Strip, either in the Book 1 or Book 2 compilation of Garfield Comics.

The comic strip in question had to do with Jon Arbuckle hitting on Liz, and Liz replied with something similar to what I did.


Right, right. Blame the talking cat.

But he of the toothbrush mustache did in fact order half a million people sterilized.



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24 Sep 2011, 8:52 pm

blunnet wrote:
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Abstinence only works if it's a conscious choice and you don't repress sexual urges. For most people this isn't a viable option because it would invariably involve respression of urges (i.e. masturbation and hobbies do not fullfill all sexual cravings).

Masturbation doesn't?

Apparently not, though maybe they're not exactly sexual urges and have more to do with romantic desires. Often those two go hand in hand.


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25 Sep 2011, 12:39 am

Lecks wrote:
blunnet wrote:
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Abstinence only works if it's a conscious choice and you don't repress sexual urges. For most people this isn't a viable option because it would invariably involve respression of urges (i.e. masturbation and hobbies do not fullfill all sexual cravings).

Masturbation doesn't?

Apparently not, though maybe they're not exactly sexual urges and have more to do with romantic desires. Often those two go hand in hand.


You have a brain, unless you are drunk or something (and if you are under 21, you aren't supposed to be allowed to have alcohol), I think you are smart enough to consider the consequences and not give into your "urges."



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25 Sep 2011, 12:59 am

Lecks wrote:
blunnet wrote:
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Abstinence only works if it's a conscious choice and you don't repress sexual urges. For most people this isn't a viable option because it would invariably involve respression of urges (i.e. masturbation and hobbies do not fullfill all sexual cravings).

Masturbation doesn't?

Apparently not, though maybe they're not exactly sexual urges and have more to do with romantic desires. Often those two go hand in hand.


People who say "tis better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all" should try it.



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25 Sep 2011, 2:01 am

blauSamstag wrote:
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Lecks wrote:
Abstinence only works if it's a conscious choice and you don't repress sexual urges. For most people this isn't a viable option because it would invariably involve respression of urges (i.e. masturbation and hobbies do not fullfill all sexual cravings).

Masturbation doesn't?

Apparently not, though maybe they're not exactly sexual urges and have more to do with romantic desires. Often those two go hand in hand.


People who say "tis better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all" should try it.


Just cause there are women I have dated, doesn't mean I am going to end up having sex with them. I think when I do find the right woman that I can spend the rest of my life with, I consider that woman to be worth waiting for.