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18 Oct 2011, 1:11 pm

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Well, what happens in those big compounds is that they'll kick out their sons so the men can have more wives. So either that or a large population of unmarried males, which everybody knows is always really good for a society! (No.)


Simple. Let these horny young men sleep with their mothers and sisters. Problem solved.

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A society of Habsburg chins to large people would be able to use them as surfboards.


I look forward to a golden age of instrumental music from the sheer amount of polydactyly.

Now THAT, to me, would just be a slice of heaven. Composing piano music for mid-ray performers.


And here comes the performers now. Dear Go-! I mean, there's the pianist with four hands and sixty-two fingers. Ah, and the composer, who seems to have more noses than teeth. It's like watching The Thing tonight.



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18 Oct 2011, 2:26 pm

Gedrene wrote:
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Gedrene wrote:
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godoftruemercy wrote:
Well, what happens in those big compounds is that they'll kick out their sons so the men can have more wives. So either that or a large population of unmarried males, which everybody knows is always really good for a society! (No.)


Simple. Let these horny young men sleep with their mothers and sisters. Problem solved.

ruveyn

A society of Habsburg chins to large people would be able to use them as surfboards.


I look forward to a golden age of instrumental music from the sheer amount of polydactyly.

Now THAT, to me, would just be a slice of heaven. Composing piano music for mid-ray performers.


And here comes the performers now. Dear Go-! I mean, there's the pianist with four hands and sixty-two fingers. Ah, and the composer, who seems to have more noses than teeth. It's like watching The Thing tonight.

The composer would just have an over-sized head--all brain. He's probably bald and has a third eye.

The CONDUCTOR, however, has 5 hands and can conduct three different meters at three different tempos with two hands for dynamics and expressions.



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01 Feb 2013, 9:14 pm

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Men should be able to marry as many women as they can properly support and be responsible for the offspring of such unions. Likewise women should be able to marry as many men as that can live with and properly care for the offspring.

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That's basically what I think.



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01 Feb 2013, 9:14 pm

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You can not be a Christian and have more than one wife, for it is written in Matthew 6:24...

The Apostle Matthew wrote:
"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other..."

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01 Feb 2013, 9:21 pm

7 bisexual wives should suffice!


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01 Feb 2013, 9:24 pm

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7 bisexual wives should suffice!


That's a good idea actually....an odd number so when husband is with one wife, there'll be an even number of others and they can entertain one another. :wink:



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02 Feb 2013, 2:56 am

I don't believe many people are capable of the selection of multiple wives who can peacefully coexist. It's a bad idea because of that but that's not to say there is anything wrong with it or that it is achievable (especially if some of the partners are expected to be temporary and replaced frequently as needed).



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02 Feb 2013, 3:00 am

daydreamer84 wrote:
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7 bisexual wives should suffice!


That's a good idea actually....an odd number so when husband is with one wife, there'll be an even number of others and they can entertain one another. :wink:
Thats the plan hehe! :lol:


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02 Feb 2013, 3:48 am

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Anyway, what I wonder is, if polygamy became accepted and widespread because of this show, what would that mean for men trying to find wives? Wouldn't a large number of men be single because all the women are in polygamist marriages? How would that work and what do polygamists think of that question?


I figure most women would rather marry someone not already in a polygamist marriage, most of the time, so I doubt it would be that much of a problem. Granted, there would undoubtedly be exceptions if the guy was rich/handsome/whatever enough, or the woman was head over heels in love with someone who was already in a relationship, or they felt like having a larger family for mutual support was better, etc. But I don't think those exceptions would be enough that a few guys would be hogging all the girls.



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02 Feb 2013, 7:39 am

Cei wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Anyway, what I wonder is, if polygamy became accepted and widespread because of this show, what would that mean for men trying to find wives? Wouldn't a large number of men be single because all the women are in polygamist marriages? How would that work and what do polygamists think of that question?


I figure most women would rather marry someone not already in a polygamist marriage, most of the time, so I doubt it would be that much of a problem. Granted, there would undoubtedly be exceptions if the guy was rich/handsome/whatever enough, or the woman was head over heels in love with someone who was already in a relationship, or they felt like having a larger family for mutual support was better, etc. But I don't think those exceptions would be enough that a few guys would be hogging all the girls.

I think you're right. If you look at animal breeders, populations tend to only consist of a disproportionate number of one sex or the other for as long as they are culled that way. If you just leave it up to the animals themselves, eventually they will restore the equilibrium closer to a 1:1 ratio.

Same thing with human beings. There are societies that place value in one sex over the other and thus face a crisis since there are now not enough of the opposite sex to continue reproducing. That will mean a cultural paradigm shift is on the horizon and that many of those will die childless, thereby restoring the sexual equilibrium.

A polygynous society inherently creates a culture in which males compete for territory, whether sexual or otherwise. You might as well start including concubinage and slavery as part of the deal. In a more liberal, democratic society, the people will quickly point out the injustice of this kind of system and work to eliminate it. It simply just doesn't work. In polygamous communities in the US, young boys who would compete for marriageable girls given away in arranged marriages are culled by banishment because crusty old men keep marrying 14 year old girls. So when the crusty old men die off, there's an entire generation that gets skipped, and the third generation will likely have a more even distribution of males/females. And the cycle starts again for the next 80 to 100 years.

They always even out in the end. Let's face it. Human beings are made to pair up for life. Accepting that and being true to our mates just makes so much in life less complicated and stressful.



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02 Feb 2013, 2:29 pm

the problem with FLDS is that all the alpha males control.



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03 Feb 2013, 3:53 pm

If you take any stock in Genesis: Jacob had a good polygamous family: two wives (Rachel and Leah, who were sisters), and two concubines. Their 12 sons grew up to be the patriachs of each of the Twelve Tribes.

So, don't go knocking polygamy if you believe in the Bible. :shameonyou:



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03 Feb 2013, 11:27 pm

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If you take any stock in Genesis: Jacob had a good polygamous family: two wives (Rachel and Leah, who were sisters), and two concubines. Their 12 sons grew up to be the patriachs of each of the Twelve Tribes.

So, don't go knocking polygamy if you believe in the Bible. :shameonyou:

What you're seeing with the patriarchs is an example of God using what some intended for evil to accomplish his own will, fulfilling the Abrahamic covenant. At no point does God seem to actually condone polygamy.

Polygamy IS acknowledged as a status quo of the ancient world, but laws concerning marriage seem to either frown on plural marriage and concubinage or at least make such unions difficult enough on husbands that plural marriage would not be in their best interests.

You mentioned Rachel and Leah. Considering the tensions and sibling rivalry caused by two sisters competing for who has the most children, whether naturally or through a surrogate, the toll taken on the corporate solidarity so prized in Abraham's family was hardly worth it for Jacob. Sarai and Hagar is another classic example of how something that seems perfect can rapidly turn sour.



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04 Feb 2013, 3:33 pm

Dear Warren Jeffs,

We had a Homintern (tm) meeting last night, and we decided that we are happy to take the "Lost Boys" off your hands for you.

Love and kisses,

The gays.


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04 Feb 2013, 4:49 pm

AngelRho wrote:
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If you take any stock in Genesis: Jacob had a good polygamous family: two wives (Rachel and Leah, who were sisters), and two concubines. Their 12 sons grew up to be the patriachs of each of the Twelve Tribes.

So, don't go knocking polygamy if you believe in the Bible. :shameonyou:

What you're seeing with the patriarchs is an example of God using what some intended for evil to accomplish his own will, fulfilling the Abrahamic covenant. At no point does God seem to actually condone polygamy.


:scratch: You're just being silly again.

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Polygamy IS acknowledged as a status quo of the ancient world, but laws concerning marriage seem to either frown on plural marriage and concubinage or at least make such unions difficult enough on husbands that plural marriage would not be in their best interests.


Sillier and sillier. The Jews had no laws against plural marriage and concubinage.

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[You mentioned Rachel and Leah. Considering the tensions and sibling rivalry caused by two sisters competing for who has the most children, whether naturally or through a surrogate, the toll taken on the corporate solidarity so prized in Abraham's family was hardly worth it for Jacob.


Sillier and sillier and sillier. Jacob had a good time with his wives and concubines.

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Sarai and Hagar is another classic example of how something that seems perfect can rapidly turn sour.


Who ever said that life was perfect? Sarah was a jealous b***h, so the situation was bound to turn sour from the beginning. At least Leah and Rachel weren't mean to their handmaidens.