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07 Jan 2012, 1:29 pm

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If you would treat that the same way you treat those extreme evangelicals, then yes, there is value. If not, then all you do is expose such a strong prejudice that I am more likely to question whether they were being as obnoxious as you claim, or if they simply touched one of your exposed nerves?


I find imposing opinions in a discourteous and obnoxious fashion displeasing regardless of what the opinions are. One may well -express- an opinion (we all do) but imposing an opinion in a socially unacceptable way is beyond the pale.

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Then we agree :)



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07 Jan 2012, 1:34 pm

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The religious right approved method of abortion is to cut pregnant woman off of food stamps which of course causes the fetus to die.


No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

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Well, I suppose there's begging. :(

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07 Jan 2012, 1:35 pm

So what other way is a pregnant woman entitled to get food?



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07 Jan 2012, 1:38 pm

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No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

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It seems you have prior experience as to what being a pregnant single mother without family or welfare is like.
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It seems like these days, Christians are made out to be demons, "bad guys", villians, etc. on TV and the media.

When I see an article on Yahoo News, peoples' comments seem to be blaming "Christians" for all the world's problems.

I never see people say these things about Islam, Judaism, etc. Christianity seems to be singled out.

Why is that?


Have you been living in a cave? Christianity being the only religion ever singled out besides Islam and Judaism :lmao:
It is Christian egotism, since the world centers around them, they just ignore any bad thing to happen to other groups and multiply the strength of anything bad said about them by 10.


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07 Jan 2012, 3:36 pm

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No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

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It seems you have prior experience as to what being a pregnant single mother without family or welfare is like.


Churches provide emergency food supply to the poor.

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07 Jan 2012, 3:45 pm

No one is entitled to receive food from a Church and a Church can refuse service to the poor at any time and for any reason. Even if food is received it may be only a 3 day emergency supply and the recipient may have to wait a month before receiving more food. If food stamps are eliminated the food banks will become exhausted.



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07 Jan 2012, 4:15 pm

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Food banks will only give a pregnant women a 3 day supply of food per month.

Where? That's not true here in Humboldt County, California.



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08 Jan 2012, 11:26 pm

It isn't the news articles themselves I am referring to, it's peoples' comments to said articles.

For example, when a pastor makes the news regarding some scandal, the comments are rarely about the scandal itself, but rather generalizations about Christians (that's they're all unintelligent, all racist, all sexist, all homophobic, all right-wing extremists, etc.)

Yet if a rabbi or an imam were involved in a similar scandal, the comments would probably be like "they were framed" or "typical right-wing bias", and be in defense of them, but nobody would defend a Christian pastor even if they were innocent.



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08 Jan 2012, 11:35 pm

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It isn't the news articles themselves I am referring to, it's peoples' comments to said articles.

For example, when a pastor makes the news regarding some scandal, the comments are rarely about the scandal itself, but rather generalizations about Christians (that's they're all unintelligent, all racist, all sexist, all homophobic, all right-wing extremists, etc.)

Yet if a rabbi or an imam were involved in a similar scandal, the comments would probably be like "they were framed" or "typical right-wing bias", and be in defense of them, but nobody would defend a Christian pastor even if they were innocent.


In all fairness, it does more often than not seem that the pastor who gets himself in trouble tends to be of the evangelical bent. That, or a Catholic priest who can't keep his pants on around boys.
I do recall a Missouri Synod Lutheran pastor and a Methodist pastor who had murdered their wives to take up with other ladies, but since they hailed from mainline denominations, the media never cast aspersions at their church bodies.

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09 Jan 2012, 5:51 pm

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No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

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It seems you have prior experience as to what being a pregnant single mother without family or welfare is like.


Churches provide emergency food supply to the poor.

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I'll take that as a no.


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09 Jan 2012, 9:32 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

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It seems you have prior experience as to what being a pregnant single mother without family or welfare is like.


Churches provide emergency food supply to the poor.

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Low quality, donated stuff that nobody else wants. And, during a few hours, once per week (or maybe every other week), with a very limited ration. No-one could live on it.



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09 Jan 2012, 11:30 pm

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No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

ruveyn
It seems you have prior experience as to what being a pregnant single mother without family or welfare is like.


Churches provide emergency food supply to the poor.

ruveyn


Low quality, donated stuff that nobody else wants. And, during a few hours, once per week (or maybe every other week), with a very limited ration. No-one could live on it.


Because of low resources, my small congregation has "adopted" a family in need in order to keep them fed. During Thanksgiving, my family has been recipients of our church's charity in regard to a holiday feast. But the means simply isn't there to feed everyone all the time. That's what's wrong with the notion that churches can pick up the slack from the federal government.

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10 Jan 2012, 2:27 am

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Low quality, donated stuff that nobody else wants. And, during a few hours, once per week (or maybe every other week), with a very limited ration. No-one could live on it.


Not in my experience. Dad and I were reliant for a time on food from the Salvation Army and the local Catholic Parish. The stuff was really ok, as good as I got in the army.


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10 Jan 2012, 3:45 am

ruveyn wrote:
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The religious right approved method of abortion is to cut pregnant woman off of food stamps which of course causes the fetus to die.


No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

ruveyn


There is always Solyent Green, despite the alleged prions.

My anthropology professor told the class that ignored & uncivilized children that make it to grow up, tend to be lethal to hostile older adults. Is Anthony Burgess's view correct that adult Humans can be easily kept alive for freshness while partly consumed? What strange forms for circular justice in the Culinary Arts!

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10 Jan 2012, 4:44 am

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ruveyn wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
The religious right approved method of abortion is to cut pregnant woman off of food stamps which of course causes the fetus to die.


No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

ruveyn


There is always Solyent Green, despite the alleged prions.

My anthropology professor told the class that ignored & uncivilized children that make it to grow up, tend to be lethal to hostile older adults. Is Anthony Burgess's view correct that adult Humans can be easily kept alive for freshness while partly consumed? What strange forms for circular justice in the Culinary Arts!

Tadzio


I'd prefer not to find out if humans can be kept alive while being fed on.
Then again..., that would make a great horror story!

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10 Jan 2012, 12:14 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism

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The Australian War Crimes Section of the Tokyo tribunal, led by prosecutor William Webb (the future Judge-in-Chief), collected numerous written reports and testimonies that documented Japanese soldiers' acts of cannibalism among their own troops, on enemy dead, and on Allied prisoners of war in many parts of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. In September 1942, Japanese daily rations on New Guinea consisted of 800 grams of rice and tinned meat. However, by December, this had fallen to 50 grams. According to historian Yuki Tanaka, "cannibalism was often a systematic activity conducted by whole squads and under the command of officers".

In some cases, flesh was cut from living people. An Indian POW, Lance Naik Hatam Ali (later a citizen of Pakistan), testified that in New Guinea: "the Japanese started selecting prisoners and every day one prisoner was taken out and killed and eaten by the soldiers. I personally saw this happen and about 100 prisoners were eaten at this place by the Japanese. The remainder of us were taken to another spot 50 miles [80 km] away where 10 prisoners died of sickness. At this place, the Japanese again started selecting prisoners to eat. Those selected were taken to a hut where their flesh was cut from their bodies while they were alive and they were thrown into a ditch where they later died."

Another well-documented case occurred in Chichijima in February 1945, when Japanese soldiers killed and consumed five American airmen. This case was investigated in 1947 in a war crimes trial, and of 30 Japanese soldiers prosecuted, five (Maj. Matoba, Gen. Tachibana, Adm. Mori, Capt. Yoshii, and Dr. Teraki) were found guilty and hanged. In his book Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, James Bradley details several instances of cannibalism of World War II Allied prisoners by their Japanese captors. The author claims that this included not only ritual cannibalization of the livers of freshly killed prisoners, but also the cannibalization-for-sustenance of living prisoners over the course of several days, amputating limbs only as needed to keep the meat fresh