What do you think is going to happen with Iran

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24 Nov 2006, 10:58 pm

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Iran will give up the nuclear weapons program if we offer them something that
can allow them to "save face" with their own people. So can both sides find that
thing? I say we agree to sale them parts for all their US made military equipment :)


You got to be kidding. Iran is a country is not unlike Nazi Germany. If you really think that we can compromise to a bunch of nutjobs who would like to blow you up in the name of their God, your a fool. Even CNN, a liberal news channel has said that we need to start getting ready to take down this threat. When you see Iran's people chanting " Death To America","Death To The UK", Death To Israel", it is quite clear what we are dealing. No amount of peace talks will do any good. We tried to compromised Hitler and it almost cost us big.


The US has along history of using money to buy the support of bad guys. Its just
smart. Are jet fighters used in terrorism? Has Iran attack anybody with jet fighters?
(remeber IRAQ started the Iraq/Iran war). If selling jet parts (they have a large number of us fighters that need parts) can stop nuclear weapons production and reduce tension I'm all for it. Do not forget in 1979 the Iranian goverment loved the
US.



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25 Nov 2006, 10:52 am

TheMachine1 wrote:
jaguars_fan wrote:
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Iran will give up the nuclear weapons program if we offer them something that
can allow them to "save face" with their own people. So can both sides find that
thing? I say we agree to sale them parts for all their US made military equipment :)


You got to be kidding. Iran is a country is not unlike Nazi Germany. If you really think that we can compromise to a bunch of nutjobs who would like to blow you up in the name of their God, your a fool. Even CNN, a liberal news channel has said that we need to start getting ready to take down this threat. When you see Iran's people chanting " Death To America","Death To The UK", Death To Israel", it is quite clear what we are dealing. No amount of peace talks will do any good. We tried to compromised Hitler and it almost cost us big.


The US has along history of using money to buy the support of bad guys. Its just
smart. Are jet fighters used in terrorism? Has Iran attack anybody with jet fighters?
(remeber IRAQ started the Iraq/Iran war). If selling jet parts (they have a large number of us fighters that need parts) can stop nuclear weapons production and reduce tension I'm all for it. Do not forget in 1979 the Iranian goverment loved the
US.


That is what they want you to think. The president of Iran has been on world TV saying he wants peace only later to tell his people to prepare to destroy Israel and its allies including us.



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25 Nov 2006, 12:11 pm

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OK, I know they (lawyers) use manipulation and holes to 'argue' their opponent out.
They're also masters of negotiation. They have uses beyond annoying you.

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Lawyers are manipulative scum who defend anything for money
Some I've known have been quite nice.

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- this makes me further question their leadership skills as per:
Quite the contrary, in my case. That's what we need at the helm of this country. Someone who can look at a case impersonally and look for ways to support it. Someone who is capable of detatching personal beliefs and interests from the discussion and merely looking for a way to create a win.



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25 Nov 2006, 4:21 pm

jaguars_fan wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
jaguars_fan wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
Iran will give up the nuclear weapons program if we offer them something that
can allow them to "save face" with their own people. So can both sides find that
thing? I say we agree to sale them parts for all their US made military equipment :)


You got to be kidding. Iran is a country is not unlike Nazi Germany. If you really think that we can compromise to a bunch of nutjobs who would like to blow you up in the name of their God, your a fool. Even CNN, a liberal news channel has said that we need to start getting ready to take down this threat. When you see Iran's people chanting " Death To America","Death To The UK", Death To Israel", it is quite clear what we are dealing. No amount of peace talks will do any good. We tried to compromised Hitler and it almost cost us big.


The US has along history of using money to buy the support of bad guys. Its just
smart. Are jet fighters used in terrorism? Has Iran attack anybody with jet fighters?
(remeber IRAQ started the Iraq/Iran war). If selling jet parts (they have a large number of us fighters that need parts) can stop nuclear weapons production and reduce tension I'm all for it. Do not forget in 1979 the Iranian goverment loved the
US.


That is what they want you to think. The president of Iran has been on world TV saying he wants peace only later to tell his people to prepare to destroy Israel and its allies including us.


Yeah thats more likely true than not. No question they are very mad at the US and
Israel. But what can we do to change that? Puts some option on the table for us to
feed Grif's neural net. :D



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25 Nov 2006, 4:23 pm

OOOOPS I got confused with IraNNNN and IraQQQQ. I'm not stupid, I swear :oops:



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25 Nov 2006, 4:31 pm

Mitch8817 wrote:
OOOOPS I got confused with IraNNNN and IraQQQQ. I'm not stupid, I swear :oops:


I'm stupid but well meaning :D



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25 Nov 2006, 9:52 pm

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They're also masters of negotiation. They have uses beyond annoying you.


"Negotiations" through psychological persuasion, not facts of law.

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Quite the contrary, in my case. That's what we need at the helm of this country. Someone who can look at a case impersonally and look for ways to support it. Someone who is capable of detatching personal beliefs and interests from the discussion and merely looking for a way to create a win.


A win is peace, no war - Any leader that drags its people to war is not what we need at the helm of this country - Maybe you'd be happier during Nazi Germany days



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25 Nov 2006, 10:05 pm

Where exactly do you draw the line between necessary and unnecessary?