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mission accomplished 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
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09 Sep 2012, 4:57 am

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This is what needs to happen everywhere.


This. We agree on something! :D



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09 Sep 2012, 3:28 pm

What's frightening as well is that I think we aspies both male and females may fall easy prey in abusive relationships.I know I was an easy target.


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09 Sep 2012, 4:45 pm

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and my current wife is wonderful understanding and pregnant.


Pregnant is inherently good?



Hell no. But billions of women seem to think so.




I wonder who voted for the "mission accomplished" option......



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09 Sep 2012, 4:50 pm

Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?



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09 Sep 2012, 4:57 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?
Because they adhere to the male code not to hit a lady no matter what, not to mention chivalry.


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09 Sep 2012, 5:01 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?
Because they adhere to the male code not to hit a lady no matter what, not to mention chivalry.




The least I would do if a woman tried to hit me was block her slaps/punches(and be ready to catch her kicks) and if she kept it up I'd go so far as to restrain her. I honestly don't think that restraining a woman who's physically out of control(the way you would a child who's having a tempter tantrum)is equivalent to hitting her, kicking her, or any sort of physical manhandling that results in pain or injury.



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09 Sep 2012, 5:06 pm

Lets not forget the trust dance of manly brotherhood of men[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f311XTtqPgc[/youtube]to be a man you must have honor,honor and a peeeenisss!! !! *twirls around*


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09 Sep 2012, 5:06 pm

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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.



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09 Sep 2012, 5:07 pm

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Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.



Correct. It's a JOKE(about the phonebooks).



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09 Sep 2012, 5:15 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
LKL wrote:
Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.



Correct. It's a JOKE(about the phonebooks).
I wonder if a taser or pepper spray would work for self defence!! :chin:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ1FzYZPP74&feature=fvwrel[/youtube]


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09 Sep 2012, 5:28 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.


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09 Sep 2012, 5:34 pm

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Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparently violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.


I was being sarcastic about the phone book, but not about responding to violence with violence in kind. That's not to say that you should beat the s**t out of someone that attacks you, but enough violence to stop the assault would be my recommendation.

In response to Tequila:
My grandfather's exact words were "never hit a lady", engaging in violent behavior is very unladylike.



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09 Sep 2012, 5:36 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.
Some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at me then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.It got bad to the point where it led this scar on my wrist Image


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09 Sep 2012, 5:44 pm

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Some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at me then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.


Your ex sounds like a piece of work. The irony of the whole matter is that one is always told that "ignoring it" is "taking the high ground" or "the narrow path" or whatever platitude a person elects to use to rationalize subservient behavior. A real man or woman knows their own boundaries, and makes it very clear how it will be enforced if a person elects to cross them. A "real" man or woman also does not make empty threats.



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09 Sep 2012, 5:45 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.
some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at it then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.


I'm VERY sorry to hear that. I grew up with domestic violence, so it touches a nerve with me.

I sincerely hope you received/are receiving the help and support you need.

I work in a male-dominated industry, and I've heard some awful stories of psycho girlfriends/wives. It's really sad the way some women think they have a "right" to physically assault males. No man "deserves" that, and I think that there needs to be much more awareness of physical and emotional abuse against boyfriends/husbands.

Good luck!


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09 Sep 2012, 6:36 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.
some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at it then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.


I'm VERY sorry to hear that. I grew up with domestic violence, so it touches a nerve with me.

I sincerely hope you received/are receiving the help and support you need.

I work in a male-dominated industry, and I've heard some awful stories of psycho girlfriends/wives. It's really sad the way some women think they have a "right" to physically assault males. No man "deserves" that, and I think that there needs to be much more awareness of physical and emotional abuse against boyfriends/husbands.

Good luck!
Thank you for the support, hard for me to admit it but after reading it brought me tears of joy, and yes luckily I was able to get help and out of that situation. I managed to have my ex fiance kicked out of my apartment and had another ex of mine who was still good friends with me even though were werent together anymore protect me from her.The lady who protected me is kinda a tom boy knows karate and wears steel toe boots she seriously wanted to kick my ex fiances ass and put her in the hospital but I told her no I dont want to have to bail her out of jail lol anyway she physicly escorted my ex fiance out and I was able to issue a restraining order against her.I dont know why but I feel like I am at the verge of breaking down in tears so emotional right now mostly joy though.I think ill step away from the computer so I dont get tears on my keyboard. :cry:


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