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09 Jan 2013, 5:53 pm

Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?



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09 Jan 2013, 5:56 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?


When you're trying to promote something supernatural, I have every reason to doubt what you say without proper evidence.

And no, I've never doubted the weather forecast because I don't go out of my way to doubt something that's not worth doubting.

But whatever pattern seeking you're doing is not evidence for anything supernatural or spiritual. You just have a human creative mind like any other human being out there.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:02 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?


When you're trying to promote something supernatural, I have every reason to doubt what you say without proper evidence.

And no, I've never doubted the weather forecast because I don't go out of my way to doubt something that's not worth doubting.

But whatever pattern seeking you're doing is not evidence for anything supernatural or spiritual. You just have a human creative mind like any other human being out there.

It's worth something if you want it to snow which I did, passionately. I wanted to see snow all over the ground and in the trees so it was very important to me!

Of course we all have creative minds! Everyone can connect to their own psychic energy. It is not exclusive to a few humans.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:06 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?


When you're trying to promote something supernatural, I have every reason to doubt what you say without proper evidence.

And no, I've never doubted the weather forecast because I don't go out of my way to doubt something that's not worth doubting.

But whatever pattern seeking you're doing is not evidence for anything supernatural or spiritual. You just have a human creative mind like any other human being out there.

It's worth something if you want it to snow which I did, passionately. I wanted to see snow all over the ground and in the trees so it was very important to me!

Of course we all have creative minds! Everyone can connect to their own psychic energy. It is not exclusive to a few humans.


You haven't demonstrated that there is such a thing as psychic energy, though. All you did was give me a story with details that I have no access to.

And assuming your story is 100% true, having a better intuition than several others at something does not make what you have psychic because intuition isn't rooted in anything supernatural or spiritual or metaphysical. It's just a natural tendency to spot things in nature that make you end up predicting something right ... even if you don't personally understand how you did it.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:10 pm

Psychic ability is rooted in the brain matter. It's not separate. You have been misled by people who claim to be psychic. They convolute what being psychic means. It's all about tuning into your mind so you can receive flashes of intuition. It comes from the senses, I believe. We are highly sensory species, like others on earth. It's not about telling people their phone number without knowing. Psychic awareness is more about gaining knowledge about important events through flashes of intuition, meaning important events to you personally.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:14 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
More about gaining knowledge about important events through flashes of intuition, meaning important event to you personally.


The way you say it, that still reeks of paranormal and spiritual to me.

Pattern seeking is natural. Spotting things in nature that some others may have failed to spot is natural. Making predictions and ending up being wrong is natural. Making predictions and ending up being right is also natural.

Exaggeration of events as one is retelling a supposedly true story is also natural. Note that this does not necessarily imply deliberate lying. One may exaggerate without being fully aware of it.

Nothing magical is going on. It's just how the human brain naturally works.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:24 pm

I never said anything about magic.

I believe people need to have a spiritual balance inside themselves to feel inner peace.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:34 pm

MCalavera wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?


When you're trying to promote something supernatural, I have every reason to doubt what you say without proper evidence.

And no, I've never doubted the weather forecast because I don't go out of my way to doubt something that's not worth doubting.

But whatever pattern seeking you're doing is not evidence for anything supernatural or spiritual. You just have a human creative mind like any other human being out there.


Exactly!! ! :D

The burden of proof rests with the one who makes the claim. :D



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09 Jan 2013, 6:51 pm

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MCalavera wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?


When you're trying to promote something supernatural, I have every reason to doubt what you say without proper evidence.

And no, I've never doubted the weather forecast because I don't go out of my way to doubt something that's not worth doubting.

But whatever pattern seeking you're doing is not evidence for anything supernatural or spiritual. You just have a human creative mind like any other human being out there.


Exactly!! ! :D

The burden of proof rests with the one who makes the claim. :D

And you haven't read any of my posts, Slave.



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09 Jan 2013, 6:55 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
slave wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Now why would you think I'd lie about this particular thing? Of all things for me to lie about, why this? Are you going to tell me you never doubted the weather forecast and thought it would do something other than it did and it being what you thought it would do?


When you're trying to promote something supernatural, I have every reason to doubt what you say without proper evidence.

And no, I've never doubted the weather forecast because I don't go out of my way to doubt something that's not worth doubting.

But whatever pattern seeking you're doing is not evidence for anything supernatural or spiritual. You just have a human creative mind like any other human being out there.


Exactly!! ! :D

The burden of proof rests with the one who makes the claim. :D

And you haven't read any of my posts, Slave.


are the relevant posts within this thread?
if yes I'll read them again
if not could you direct me to your explanation

:)



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09 Jan 2013, 7:13 pm

For one thing, I do not discredit science. I think science needs that intuition or else it's impossible to observe what needs observing in the first place. It is the foundation of our thought. It's that insight that tells us something needs to be examined and altered, possibly.



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09 Jan 2013, 7:18 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
For one thing, I do not discredit science. I think science needs that intuition or else it's impossible to observe what needs observing in the first place. It is the foundation of our thought. It's that insight that tells us something needs to be examined and altered, possibly.


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09 Jan 2013, 11:26 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I never said anything about magic.

I believe people need to have a spiritual balance inside themselves to feel inner peace.


Spiritual is magic.



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09 Jan 2013, 11:30 pm

MCalavera wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I never said anything about magic.

I believe people need to have a spiritual balance inside themselves to feel inner peace.


Spiritual is magic.

Spiritual just means inner peace.



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09 Jan 2013, 11:33 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I never said anything about magic.

I believe people need to have a spiritual balance inside themselves to feel inner peace.


Spiritual is magic.

Spiritual just means inner peace.


So nothing supernatural. It's something psychological.

No point calling it spiritual when we usually think of spiritual as something supernatural beyond the physical material realm.



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09 Jan 2013, 11:42 pm

I have no problems with calling it spiritual. I am not intimidated by that word. It can be beautiful.