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15 Jan 2013, 11:22 pm

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I found this video rather interesting, the male gorilla was planning to kill the baby so he can get some from the mother but she didnt want that to happen and the rest of the troop put him in his place including the mother! You go Girl gorilla!

Is that an assumption or did you get this extra info from somewhere? I watched the video before I read you explanation underneath and I hadn't assumed he was trying to kill any babies, from that scene alone.
When the mother is caring for her child she is no longer in heat if he kills the baby shell be in heat again. She doesnt want that to happen because caring for her baby and for his or her well being. Another possibility is that the baby is a male and he sees it as competition in the future so he will try to kill it.


Also, they're cooped up in a zoo, and behave more like humans than like feral gorillas. In an actual rain forest, and woman and her child could find more places to hide.


For a second there, I thought you were still talking about ArrantPariah! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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16 Jan 2013, 12:10 am

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I dont know why but I visualize Arrantpariah as this guy! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCRYa0Bwns[/youtube]


I wear flannel shirts, but with sweater vests.

Also, my facial hair isn't quite as tidy as his.
But your funny like this guy id have a few drinks with you and watch the god damn jets!


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16 Jan 2013, 8:10 am

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I bet you wear loafers.And slacks.


As opposed to high heels and a skirt?



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16 Jan 2013, 10:29 am

^^^^^^^^Well, if you have the legs for it.......


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16 Jan 2013, 10:48 am

I was trying to imagine what it would be like to be incarcerated with 6 female members of my own species, plus one child. We would probably grow accustomed to seeing each other nude fairly quickly.

My closest experience was in an office, where I was the only male. It was absolute Hell. I was low ranking. I couldn't swat anyone. And, I had no breeding rights.

In a natural environment, the ladies pretty much have to kowtow to the man, or they might get eaten by a leopard. Plus, I could impress the ladies by pounding my chest and chasing off any other guy who wanted a piece of my harem.

In a zoo, where you are provided with all of the benefits of socialism: free food, free shelter, free medical care: the only way that the man can assert his dominance is by swatting the ladies around a bit. Otherwise, he'll be henpecked to death. The women don't need him for anything. He is only there for show.

Still, it might be preferable to being locked up with nothing but men.



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16 Jan 2013, 10:49 am

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^^^^^^^^Well, if you have the legs for it.......


I may have the legs, but I don't have the ass.



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16 Jan 2013, 10:52 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
I was trying to imagine what it would be like to be incarcerated with 6 female members of my own species, plus one child. We would probably grow accustomed to seeing each other nude fairly quickly.

My closest experience was in an office, where I was the only male. It was absolute Hell. I was low ranking. I couldn't swat anyone. And, I had no breeding rights.

In a natural environment, the ladies pretty much have to kowtow to the man, or they might get eaten by a leopard. Plus, I could impress the ladies by pounding my chest and chasing off any other guy who wanted a piece of my harem.

In a zoo, where you are provided with all of the benefits of socialism: free food, free shelter, free medical care: the only way that the man can assert his dominance is by swatting the ladies around a bit. Otherwise, he'll be henpecked to death. The women don't need him for anything. He is only there for show.

Still, it might be preferable to being locked up with nothing but men.

I think men need other men to feel secure. In the wild, if men and women were truly noble beasts, what would happen is, the men would go off and do the hunting and spend a great deal of time on their own, in a group, while the women would go and find berries, nuts and roots, in a group. They would stick to their own gender a lot. So, we, as a species have that genetic component. We need to feel supported by members of our own gender to feel secure and when that does not happen for whatever reason, personality conflicts within the individual can result. It isj just natural for men and women to crave acceptance from members of their own gender.



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16 Jan 2013, 3:29 pm

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I think men need other men to feel secure. In the wild, if men and women were truly noble beasts, what would happen is, the men would go off and do the hunting and spend a great deal of time on their own, in a group, while the women would go and find berries, nuts and roots, in a group. They would stick to their own gender a lot. So, we, as a species have that genetic component. We need to feel supported by members of our own gender to feel secure and when that does not happen for whatever reason, personality conflicts within the individual can result. It isj just natural for men and women to crave acceptance from members of their own gender.


That may explain why our species became the planet's dominant species. Individually, we're nothing. A group of us with pointed sticks can bring down a mammoth. An army can easily destroy a poor fellow who is trying to live alone and defend his harem in a rain forest, no matter how big and strong he is.

Relatively infrequent infanticide contributed towards swelling our numbers.

Plus, if every man has his own woman, then there is that much less of a compelling reason to try to overthrow the alpha of the group. And, more people procreating means greater genetic diversity, which also contributes to species survival.



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16 Jan 2013, 3:40 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I think men need other men to feel secure.


Not this man.



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16 Jan 2013, 4:43 pm

If I was a silverback gorilla I wouldn't try to harm the baby even if it was another male I would just snuggle up and give the female gorillas hugs and protect them from other silverbacks and leapords! Besides I can always mate with the other female gorillas I just wouldn't do what this big lummox did I would rather have a hord of females on my side then kicking my ass because there's strength in numbers plus I would be lonely esspecially in a zoo!


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16 Jan 2013, 5:27 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I think men need other men to feel secure. In the wild, if men and women were truly noble beasts, what would happen is, the men would go off and do the hunting and spend a great deal of time on their own, in a group, while the women would go and find berries, nuts and roots, in a group. They would stick to their own gender a lot. So, we, as a species have that genetic component. We need to feel supported by members of our own gender to feel secure and when that does not happen for whatever reason, personality conflicts within the individual can result. It isj just natural for men and women to crave acceptance from members of their own gender.


That may explain why our species became the planet's dominant species. Individually, we're nothing. A group of us with pointed sticks can bring down a mammoth. An army can easily destroy a poor fellow who is trying to live alone and defend his harem in a rain forest, no matter how big and strong he is.

Relatively infrequent infanticide contributed towards swelling our numbers.

Plus, if every man has his own woman, then there is that much less of a compelling reason to try to overthrow the alpha of the group. And, more people procreating means greater genetic diversity, which also contributes to species survival.

The thing is, genetic diversity does not promote survival of the fittest like only the strongest passing on their genes. This is where humanity steps outside the Darwinian box imo. Survival of the fittest is no longer relative when it's humans and human dependent species, like dogs, cats, horses, cattle, pigs, various types of fowl, fish and animals living domestically or in zoos. We control our own genes and theirs, more or less. How can Darwinism possibly apply to humans?



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16 Jan 2013, 5:58 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The thing is, genetic diversity does not promote survival of the fittest like only the strongest passing on their genes. This is where humanity steps outside the Darwinian box imo. Survival of the fittest is no longer relative when it's humans and human dependent species, like dogs, cats, horses, cattle, pigs, various types of fowl, fish and animals living domestically or in zoos. We control our own genes and theirs, more or less. How can Darwinism possibly apply to humans?


If there is an outbreak of a major disease, such as the plague, people who are resistant to the disease will survive. The more genetic diversity, the greater the likelihood of a greater proportion of the population surviving.

In mountain sheep, the winner of the tussles gets to breed with all of the ladies. If this winner carries a gene that makes him susceptible to die if a new disease enters the area, and this gene is passed on to all of the offspring, then they will be a greater risk of a larger proportion of them succumbing.

Allowing only the top dog to breed puts too many eggs into one basket, so to speak.



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16 Jan 2013, 6:20 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The thing is, genetic diversity does not promote survival of the fittest like only the strongest passing on their genes. This is where humanity steps outside the Darwinian box imo. Survival of the fittest is no longer relative when it's humans and human dependent species, like dogs, cats, horses, cattle, pigs, various types of fowl, fish and animals living domestically or in zoos. We control our own genes and theirs, more or less. How can Darwinism possibly apply to humans?


If there is an outbreak of a major disease, such as the plague, people who are resistant to the disease will survive. The more genetic diversity, the greater the likelihood of a greater proportion of the population surviving.

In mountain sheep, the winner of the tussles gets to breed with all of the ladies. If this winner carries a gene that makes him susceptible to die if a new disease enters the area, and this gene is passed on to all of the offspring, then they will be a greater risk of a larger proportion of them succumbing.

Allowing only the top dog to breed puts too many eggs into one basket, so to speak.

Another way of looking at it is the guy who has the genetic resistance to the plague mates with many females, passing on his resistant genes to the offspring. This goes against genetic diversity and it backs up Darwinism.



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16 Jan 2013, 6:53 pm

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Another way of looking at it is the guy who has the genetic resistance to the plague mates with many females, passing on his resistant genes to the offspring. This goes against genetic diversity and it backs up Darwinism.


That would be after the plague had carried off the competition. If he (and others who carried this trait) had been completely cock-blocked before the plague hit, then there would be a lot fewer survivors.



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16 Jan 2013, 7:00 pm

One can argue if the genes are beneficial, one guy mating with several gals would not be a considered a bad thing, providing their genes are beneficial as well according to Darwinism. It just depends on what you believe about life on earth. Is it about survival of the fittest or is it about survival, period. With humans, it seems to be about survival, period. So, perhaps things are a bit more complex than Darwinism allows? This puts the theory in a bad light.



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16 Jan 2013, 7:48 pm

You know come to think of it I would be a rather friendly silverback gorilla! Even to humans!


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