[AUS] Jehovah's Witness boy ordered to have transfusion

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Who the is this Barnes, and why should I pay any attention to his revisionist theories?

I agree with this^^^

What the Bible says is completely relevant seeing it is the the reason why the Witnesses believe the way they do. They are not against all medical treatment just when it involves blood transfusions. And in the instance where a blood transfusion is recommended, the Witnesses turn to alternative treatment which more and more doctors are using as a first resort because the patients recover faster and fair better than patients who received blood transfusions. Not to mention you can't get diseases such as AIDS and Hepatitis from these treatments.

Regarding the blood fractions: It is up to the individual to decide whether or not they will take even a fraction of blood. Some still refuse to take even a fraction of blood because of their strong beliefs.

Witnesses value life and go as far as they can to preserve it as long as they are not displeasing God.

Everyone who has a strong faith will do what they feel they need to in order to preserve that faith. That is everyone's right.

Doctors can't guarantee that if the patient takes a blood transfusion they will live but the Witnesses believe they have a guarantee from God that if they do what he says they will have everlasting life.

So they honestly feel they are doing the right thing.

From my oppinion: If he is old enough to vote and choose his religion freely, according to the laws of his country, it is his free desicion and his own consequences, he must face. So if he dont want a blood donation, so be it, as sad as it is.

if they do decide to make him get treatment,have him go door to door trying to collect the blood

If an adult wants to refuse a blood transfusion, I say let them. If a child's parents refuse a blood transfusion, even if the child says that they don't want it, then I believe there should be intervention.

Whilst I think his views are (metaphorically) crazy, he should be allowed to make the decision if he wants and is of sound mind.

I think 16 is probably a sensible cut off. Below that, the child gets the transfusion, regardless of the wishes of the parents.

Maybe another thing to protect even adults from, is their gullibility in believing falsehoods that make them chose a wrong course that others can see, but they cannot.

Very, Very many Witnesses are waking up to realizing they have been duped by the Watchtower and leaving, then wondering how they could have been in for so long in the first place.

Imagine how you would feel if you sincerely believed you were doing the right thing for God and letting your baby die, and then no longer believing the Witnesses are Gods mouthpiece on Earth, and that you let your baby die for something you now consider a falsehood?
Or if you yourself die out of choice from something you would have rejected if you had still been alive further down the line.

The thing is the Witnesses are a very controlling religion, they will make you believe you are sinning against God if you do not believe every word they say and that they are Gods only channel on Earth, or if you read any other explanation for Scripture other than what they publish in the Watchtower, you can be disfellowshipped if you take it on board, disfellowshipping means no contact with your family or friends, your own Mother would no longer have anything to do with you.

So, in effect, Witnesses are not of sound mind, not through any fault of their own, but by the insular community of the organisation.

But people are learning and changing their minds, they wont have this opportunity if they are allowed to die due to the teachings of a self appointed group of men.

As an example of JW false teachings, they teach that Jesus presence occurred from 1914.
They got this from measuring a passage a few times in one of the Pyramids.

Later on they decided the Pyramids were a symbol of Satanic Worship in which case God wouldn't have used them to announce when his Kingdom arrived.

So they used a complicated bunch of unrelated scripture, and a change of a historical date that nobody in the world agrees with apart from the JWs, to keep the 1914 pyramid date because their whole doctrine and claim of Divine authority centres around this date.

Now because Jesus said, "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur", they have been teaching for nearly 100 years that the generation that saw 1914 will still be alive at Armageddon.
Now as this plainly hasn't happened, instead of saying, "Sorry, we were wrong", they change their own interpretation of Scripture and in effect call Jesus a Liar by changing the meaning of "Generation", so that they can still hold on to their pyramid 1914 Golden Calf.

A lot of Witnesses are starting to open their eyes.
They need to be still alive to do so.

^ Being in a cult sounds like falling in love, in a way. You wake up and think 'how on earth did I come to feel this way?'

My concern is that you give one of these people a blood transfusion, they think they're going to hell, and the mental torment causes them to kill themselves anyway or something.

The core belief of the Witnesses is their belief in the bible. They believe 100% of what the bible says.

Every faith has beliefs. Now whether or not we agree has nothing to do with it. It is up to each individual to decide what they want to believe and for what reasons.

I recall reading that the JW translation of the Bible was carried out by people who had no prior education of the original languages. How did they manage to do it? I have no clue.

Don't worry that would never happen. They don't believe in hell as a fire filled place of torment.

They would be distressed because they were forced to do something against their will. Something the strongly believe displeases God.

Except of course John Chapter 6 which you will never find read at a Memorial, the bit where Jesus says if you want everlasting life, you have to eat his flesh and drink his blood, JWs are told they mustn't do that.

Well, then, replace "hell" with "annihilation of their soul".

Oh yes, the Jo-ho's seem to preach that only an ex amount of people are allowed into heaven and that they are following that path. Yet the number of followers far outnumber the supposed number of people that are allowed into heaven. That itself has got to promote fear and hostility among your peers.

Aside from that, I guarantee you these people will be expelled and shunned by their cults if the kid did/or has gone through with the transfusion. Im sorry for being late, but I didn't read any updates since then. Did they go through with it? I'll check the pages now.

No, its quite the opposite in fact, they are venerated, a possible equivalent is the Catholics with their Saints.
"Oh look!, hes one of the Anointed!"

Though the JWs are very big on criticising other religions for such creature worship and Idolatry, they teach that only the small number of "Anointed" are in a relationship with Jesus and God, and that the vast "Great crowd" of normal JWs, only achieve salvation via their association with these Anointed, which is surely blasphemy to attribute salvation to men.