Would You be Against Shooting a Gun at a Range

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24 Oct 2013, 9:46 pm

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24 Oct 2013, 9:57 pm

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This thread makes me wonder what it is about weapons that so intrigue humans. I would not be adverse to firing a gun at a shooting range, I had an air rifle as a kid and shot at targets in the back yard. Rather than shooting a gun I am more interested in taking up archery, same concept different mechanism. So what it is about weapons that can potentially even get pacifists interested given the correct non aggressive environment ?


To that I say, I may not be a dude, but I do love to shoot my load 8)



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24 Oct 2013, 10:19 pm

They could have cut that song down to two seconds and it would have been manageable. However, its current form is more like a Mongol hoard slashing away at the eardrum.


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24 Oct 2013, 11:06 pm

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Well, darn. That's why I never pursued scuba diving, after getting my license... the equipment is just too damn expensive.


All I own is my Mask, Snorkel and fins. Everything else get supplied by the dive operator. Is this different in the US?


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25 Oct 2013, 12:05 am

Everything was supplied by the dive shop operator when I trained, yes, but after that I would either have to rent it each time I went down ($$) or buy my own ($$$$$).



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25 Oct 2013, 6:44 am

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Everything was supplied by the dive shop operator when I trained, yes, but after that I would either have to rent it each time I went down ($$) or buy my own ($$$$$).

Couldn't you get most of what you need on Craigslist for a lot less? A guy I trained in martial arts with got a whole bunch of certifications including his instructor classes, recovery and rescue certs, and one of the things he was telling me was that yeah - all new it's $3,000ish for the outfit, tank, and computer but you can get everything used quite often under $500 which is what he did. The best news about diving is that for a couple trips down once the fixed costs are dealt with the only one left is filling the tank which is usually south of $10 and lasts a couple dives. It sounds like a wonderful and inexpensive thing to do once you've gotten the fixed costs out of the way.



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25 Oct 2013, 6:59 am

I usually avoid ranges. It is the people there that I have problems with, not the firearms. I have been to a few ranges where (most of) the people were there to shoot, but after leaving New England, the majority of the gun ranges seemed to basically be a hang-out for people to talk about how the government wants all of our guns or that ANY gun regulation is a violation of the 2nd amendment. When I went to a range, it was to shoot, not to get into arguments with people who I'd never even seen fire a single round.

If you found me a range where the only discussions were related to actual firearms and the majority of the time was spent actually using the range, I would be all for it.


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25 Oct 2013, 7:06 am

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Would You be Against Shooting a Gun at a Range

no. if i had a gun i would shoot my oven.



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25 Oct 2013, 7:15 am

I think the noises and people would be too irritating too me, to be able to concentrate myself propper on shooting.

Normally I need to be alone for such stuff. I already have been on an archers range, but after learning, I liked to do it on my own more. (We have a field behind the house.) In general I think I would be more a fan of sharpshooting or aiming-sport-shooting. I like to do stuff, that forces you to fully focus on one thing, and to force all other thoughts to go away. Still I think I wouldnt like it to be at a range, because of the disturbing feeling, that every second, someone could do a mistake, leading to a bullet flying around. (Yes, I know in theory, there are rules therefor such things never happen. In army they have that rules as well. Still, when I visited my partner in army hospital, I was around when an "never being able to happen" incident happened, that luckily hurt noone. Only needs one person to be off-thought for a second, and you got the mess. :( )



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25 Oct 2013, 9:30 am

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I usually avoid ranges. It is the people there that I have problems with, not the firearms.
Yea, it happens. One moment you are out for a quiet target practice the next someone comes up to you and starts talking abut, " The President is a lizard from another planet dude, I have proof." Move slowly back to the car door. Don't get excited: they may think you are lizard subspecies and run you down with their monster truck.


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25 Oct 2013, 11:58 am

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No, but I have a few of his books and have watched some shows on youtube. He has got to be the best survival expert I have ever seen.


Yes he actually teaches how to survive there, rather then escape and evasion, or reality tv.



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25 Oct 2013, 12:15 pm

in college i took a class in marksmanship because i wanted to have the experience (i also took hang-gliding & scuba diving classes for similar reasons), even though i was (& am) a pacifist. i practiced enough to become a highly accurate shooter, then never held a gun again, but the best thing i got from this was the noise-muffling ear protectors, which i still use to this day.


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25 Oct 2013, 2:10 pm

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i practiced enough to become a highly accurate shooter, then never held a gun again
Sounds like you wasted your time then. After that long of a break I would doubt that you could still shoot well.


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25 Oct 2013, 4:03 pm

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i practiced enough to become a highly accurate shooter, then never held a gun again
Sounds like you wasted your time then. After that long of a break I would doubt that you could still shoot well.


I think it would be premature to dismiss prior skill due to the passing of time.

While some specific skills (proper weapon maintenance, handling recoil, managing sway) likely require regular shooting practice, some of the lessons of successful marksmanship shouldn't really deteriorate over time.

Compensating for bullet drop at a known distance, for instance. This is a pure physics exercise. I know exactly how to compensate my shot at 100, 200, 300 or 400 metres if given the same rifle today that I used 12 years ago during my military service.

And familiarity (knowing that 7.62 kicks like a mule compared to 5.56, and that .50 BMG rounds make both 7.62 an 5.56 look like blanks in comparison) will likely increase accuracy in longer shooting sessions, because the shooter doesn't piss her/himself whenever pulling the trigger.



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25 Oct 2013, 4:24 pm

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I think it would be premature to dismiss prior skill due to the passing of time.
Hard to say for certain unless he tried again. My brother was a crack shot but the last time he tried shooting he was out of practice for five years and could barely keep the same score as his friend who was shooting for the second time in his life.


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25 Oct 2013, 11:53 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
LKL wrote:
Everything was supplied by the dive shop operator when I trained, yes, but after that I would either have to rent it each time I went down ($$) or buy my own ($$$$$).

Couldn't you get most of what you need on Craigslist for a lot less? A guy I trained in martial arts with got a whole bunch of certifications including his instructor classes, recovery and rescue certs, and one of the things he was telling me was that yeah - all new it's $3,000ish for the outfit, tank, and computer but you can get everything used quite often under $500 which is what he did. The best news about diving is that for a couple trips down once the fixed costs are dealt with the only one left is filling the tank which is usually south of $10 and lasts a couple dives. It sounds like a wonderful and inexpensive thing to do once you've gotten the fixed costs out of the way.


Maybe now I could. :) back then, there wasn't a Craigslist to go to.