Obama signs Monsanto Protection Act
http://consumersunion.org/wp-content/up ... _14_13.pdf
The wiki article was to emphasis that many countries ban GMOs.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/gefood/ ... thbans.cfm
I don't think those bans have been overturned everywhere.
http://gmo-awareness.com/all-about-gmos/gmo-risks/
I guess we can kiss the monarch butterflies goodby,I mean Monsantos profits are sooooo much more important than living beings.
http://www.weknowstuff.us.com/2014/05/g ... dolts.html
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... rbicide-p/
Yes let's all trust Monsanto,they only have our best interests at heart,not how much money they can rake in.
http://earthjustice.org/features/ourwor ... al-romance
Monsanto sucks.
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Michael Taylor the former VP of Monsanto is now the commissioner of the FDA, obviously you can trust the government and government funded research that says GMO is safe. lul what a bunch of pathetic sheeple you guys are.
It would be like one of the head of Halliburton being the VP of the U.S.A. and invading Iraq on false pretenses and then awarding billions of $ in contracts to his own company. Oh, wait a minute. Certainly there is no conflict of interest with having the people who invented agent orange writing their own laws. Certainly giant corporations like big pharma and big oil that have their paws around the governments neck never suppress damaging research or reports at the cost of public health do they?
http://livefreelivenatural.com/honeybee ... cial-food/
After all, life is so much more pleasant when you pretend like the bad problems dont exist and you just live like an idiot isnt it?
However, American powers refuse to believe the problem is neonicotinoid insecticides and they continue to be in use here.
No, government corruption and mass misinformation isnt a problem here, if you just look away it means that the problem isnt really happening any more right. Just keep your empty heads buried in the sand and dilute your self with the straw man argument that there isnt any hard science to show that GMOs kill you. Ignore everythign else that is going on. Ignore the fact that GMO crops are laden with poison and grow in mineral deficient soil, ignore the hard science that does show all the fertalizers used to to make the plants grow wreak havoc on your digestive tract. Ignore the the fact that GMO cattle are literally fed s**t and that there is an astonishing amount of tumors in the beef you are eating. Ignore what Monsanto has done with the farmers in India, putting them into economic slavery, bankrupting then and causing the death of people due to starvation. No there is no bigger picture.
I dont really have any respect for the GMO apologists. I do actually, its just that its disrespect.
I've seen cows being fed s**t from Tyson chicken houses,I can't imagine anyone wanting to eat a s**t fed animal.Ive seen the inside of Tyson houses,my brother in law had eight.Tyson used to give the chickens aresenic before selling,it makes them thirsty so they drink more water and then weigh more.He wouldn't eat chicken,says something when the farmer won't eat what he raises.He raised a grass feed beef for his family,no poop,just grass.Everyday they hauled out a heaping wheel barrow of dead chickens from each house.All the ground water is f****d near those houses and it stinks to high heaven,and flies,you have never seen so many.I wonder if most people who eat chicken and turkey have ever seen a truck hauling them,they are packed in tight,in the winter they don't have a cover on the sides,they just roll down the road when it's ten degrees,but who cares?There are videos out that show people kicking and hitting the birds,no respect at all that this is a living,breathing being.I'm not asking people to go vegan,but shouldn't they at least be treated decently before they are killed?
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Best to buy from local farmer's markets. At least their stuff usually has flavor to it, unlike that bland s**t at the grocery store that actually costs more. I don't know why people shun eating ho-hos and twinkies so much as being unhealthy when the s**t that passes for meat, veggies, and fruit is as fuctup as it is.
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When I was little the grocery stores bought fruit in season and locally,when you got a bushel of peaches or a flat of strawberries they tasted like something.We would gorge on them.Give a kid a peach out of a grocery store today and no wonder they don't want to eat it,it's nasty,pithy and no flavor.I remember what a real peach tastes like,I never buy them at the store.
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Thus the reason why factor farmed animal are fed copious amounts of antibiotics. This in turn creates an animal that is more nutrient deficient and sickly. There is abundant overload of antibiotics in the farm animals, in the water run off as it comes out of the animals and in turn in our own system when we eat it. This contributes to the creation of antibiotic resistant bacterium, but who cares, a few corporate funded studies show that eating GMOs wont kill you so lets just ignore the deadly and untreatable cross species infectious disease we are propagating. Certainly that is not a looming disaster capable of collapsing society thats waiting in the wings for us down the road right?
I am very fortunate that in the county I live has one commercial hog farm,it's new and many are fighting to get it shut down.An unlikely ally is the Park Ssrvice,run off could effect the Buffalo River.They have the high powered lawyers to fight this
Other than that,we have the cleanest water in the state.
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Where do YOU live? lol
We went to the farmer's market this weekend. The prices are INSANE?as in who in their right mind would pay THAT for a pound of tomatoes? People here want a LOT of money for the same stuff you get at the grocery store. Sometimes I wonder if the farmer's market vendors and the grocery stores aren't getting all their produce from the same source. Where possible our Kroger sells locally-grown produce?which I take to mean in-state.
Of course, I live in the fertile, agricultural butt-crack of the United States. It's looking like a LOT of soybeans this year. You won't find good tomatoes or peppers around here that didn't come from Mexico.
AngelRho
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Thus the reason why factor farmed animal are fed copious amounts of antibiotics. This in turn creates an animal that is more nutrient deficient and sickly. There is abundant overload of antibiotics in the farm animals, in the water run off as it comes out of the animals and in turn in our own system when we eat it. This contributes to the creation of antibiotic resistant bacterium, but who cares, a few corporate funded studies show that eating GMOs wont kill you so lets just ignore the deadly and untreatable cross species infectious disease we are propagating. Certainly that is not a looming disaster capable of collapsing society thats waiting in the wings for us down the road right?
Cross-species infectious disease? Among GMO plants? It's a non-issue. It means a certain bacteria or fungus that the plant is NOT resistant to will become the predominant disease affecting the plant. So next season they'll produce a hybrid that IS resistant to that bacteria/mold/virus/fungus. We've been modifying plant genetics for thousands of years now, and that's all been before Mendel's experiments.
Where I live, you can't drive far without running into a crop-duster laying down glyphosate, which isn't a problem since a lot of crops here are glyphosate resistant. Eventually the only weeds coming up in the fields will be glyphosate-resistant. At a certain point farmers will have to stop using glyphosate and use a different herbicide. Eventually all weeds that grow will be resistant to whatever that is, and they'll go back to using glyphosate.
Scientists are finding that putting out a steady stream of various antibiotics has led to the only bacteria out there being resistant to THOSE drugs. Since they've switched up the drugs so much and not too often repeated drugs used in the past, the bugs out now are no longer bugs that are resistant to 1st generation antibiotics. Plain old penicillin MAY eventually make a comeback.
From what I understand, the only significant threat out there is MERSA in terms of drug-resistance. From what I've read about it, it seems to be contracted mainly in hospitals where there'd most likely be open wounds to infect. We probably all have MERSA breeding in our nasal passages right now and we'll never know since it never makes us sick.
It would be like one of the head of Halliburton being the VP of the U.S.A. and invading Iraq on false pretenses and then awarding billions of $ in contracts to his own company. Oh, wait a minute. Certainly there is no conflict of interest with having the people who invented agent orange writing their own laws. Certainly giant corporations like big pharma and big oil that have their paws around the governments neck never suppress damaging research or reports at the cost of public health do they?
http://livefreelivenatural.com/honeybee ... cial-food/
After all, life is so much more pleasant when you pretend like the bad problems dont exist and you just live like an idiot isnt it?
However, American powers refuse to believe the problem is neonicotinoid insecticides and they continue to be in use here.
No, government corruption and mass misinformation isnt a problem here, if you just look away it means that the problem isnt really happening any more right. Just keep your empty heads buried in the sand and dilute your self with the straw man argument that there isnt any hard science to show that GMOs kill you. Ignore everythign else that is going on. Ignore the fact that GMO crops are laden with poison and grow in mineral deficient soil, ignore the hard science that does show all the fertalizers used to to make the plants grow wreak havoc on your digestive tract. Ignore the the fact that GMO cattle are literally fed sh** and that there is an astonishing amount of tumors in the beef you are eating. Ignore what Monsanto has done with the farmers in India, putting them into economic slavery, bankrupting then and causing the death of people due to starvation. No there is no bigger picture.
I dont really have any respect for the GMO apologists. I do actually, its just that its disrespect.
Literally one thing you said there has any relevance. Anything else is general bad ethics, and that's before we get onto whether they are true. Oh, wait, there are a few things you've thrown in that are positives (growing in nutrient deficient soils).
So, is your one relevant point even true? As proven above, nope.
If you want to talk about inhumane treatment of farm animals, overuse of neonicotinoids (though fwiw, that article is extremely biased - yes, neonics are a big factor, but Varroa destructor are too, and recent changes in apiary have helped V. destructor, CCD is a complex phenomenon with many contributing factors... plus check out some of their other articles, they're a straight up conspiracy site), overuse of antibiotics in farm animals, Monsanto's appalling business ethics, or any other similar issue, fine, but don't pretend like any of those are reasons to cut off your nose. Or should I assume your use of a computer is an endorsement of Apple's slave labour, rare earth element mining, the fossil fuel industry, and so forth?
Where do YOU live? lol
We went to the farmer's market this weekend. The prices are INSANE?as in who in their right mind would pay THAT for a pound of tomatoes? People here want a LOT of money for the same stuff you get at the grocery store. Sometimes I wonder if the farmer's market vendors and the grocery stores aren't getting all their produce from the same source. Where possible our Kroger sells locally-grown produce?which I take to mean in-state.
Of course, I live in the fertile, agricultural butt-crack of the United States. It's looking like a LOT of soybeans this year. You won't find good tomatoes or peppers around here that didn't come from Mexico.
I'm sure you have more than one farmer's market in your area. The one I use on Tobacco Road here in Dogpatch I pay from 99 cents to $1.29 for tomatoes as one example, and they do actually taste like tomatoes. Sometimes, but usually not, the grocery stores here will have local stuff but I don't count on it to be regular.
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As a local Art Farmer, I produce little, do not sell it, and quest for the perfect vine ripened Creole Tomatoe, a breed developed from survivors of many a hot humid summer.
It is mostly flesh, few seeds and juice, they ripen over a long season, small early fruit to huge double lobed main season that all have the full flavor and texture which is as tomatoe as it gets. They have to be staked and tied, and I kill pests by hand. We used to have local growers, but now less and less, and growing them is an art.
Some try, but getting any production is labor and skill, plus some luck. Deep well drained soil, lots of organic material, water twice a day, feed little but often, and grow in clay with a large worm population. They need some shade, as heat, over feeding, flooded ground, will all affect the flavor and texture. The vines will die, they will not flower, flowers do not set fruit, or the conditions favor the bugs. Uneven watering the skins will split. Too much water the roots die.
When fully ripened the stem is clipped far back, at dawn, they are kept in the shade, never refridgeated, and eaten the same day.
Music you hear, art you see, Tomatoes are a wide sense art of flavor, smells, textures, and those who know ask to be remembered in the season. It is a taste never to be forgotten, a peak of flavor, and you were chosen worthy of a gift.
I also grow Mirliton, a vine that makes a pear shaped vegatable, a local crop for hundreds of years. Katrina killed most, we are rebuilding from the survivors. Mirliton is Hatian, but the vine is Caribe, an old cultivar.
To have the best of the world, at the peak of perfection, is a worthy goal.
It is said, "People eat to live, but in New Orleans, people live to eat."
Life could always be a bit better.
It would be like one of the head of Halliburton being the VP of the U.S.A. and invading Iraq on false pretenses and then awarding billions of $ in contracts to his own company. Oh, wait a minute. Certainly there is no conflict of interest with having the people who invented agent orange writing their own laws. Certainly giant corporations like big pharma and big oil that have their paws around the governments neck never suppress damaging research or reports at the cost of public health do they?
http://livefreelivenatural.com/honeybee ... cial-food/
After all, life is so much more pleasant when you pretend like the bad problems dont exist and you just live like an idiot isnt it?
However, American powers refuse to believe the problem is neonicotinoid insecticides and they continue to be in use here.
No, government corruption and mass misinformation isnt a problem here, if you just look away it means that the problem isnt really happening any more right. Just keep your empty heads buried in the sand and dilute your self with the straw man argument that there isnt any hard science to show that GMOs kill you. Ignore everythign else that is going on. Ignore the fact that GMO crops are laden with poison and grow in mineral deficient soil, ignore the hard science that does show all the fertalizers used to to make the plants grow wreak havoc on your digestive tract. Ignore the the fact that GMO cattle are literally fed sh** and that there is an astonishing amount of tumors in the beef you are eating. Ignore what Monsanto has done with the farmers in India, putting them into economic slavery, bankrupting then and causing the death of people due to starvation. No there is no bigger picture.
I dont really have any respect for the GMO apologists. I do actually, its just that its disrespect.
Literally one thing you said there has any relevance. Anything else is general bad ethics, and that's before we get onto whether they are true. Oh, wait, there are a few things you've thrown in that are positives (growing in nutrient deficient soils).
God I am sorry but are you really this stupid? Fertilizers that make our guts sick are an excuse to neglect the soil and thus the tasteless nutrient deficient foods you buy in the store. It not as if it is some how saving man kind because we are able to do it.
The fruits and veg that grow in my back yard are planted in dark black super nutritious soils with the proper minerals and microflora and because of that they taste better. If millions of people can do it themselves in their back yard there is no reason commercial farmers cant either. They just do it to save money. Nobody is being saving from starvation because of it.
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