Sterilization after two kids

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And you are going to have a lot of women working in that hospital and it's a fact when women are trained, skilled workers they have fewer children anyway.

In India they gave a way transistor radios to men that got vasectomies.In Thailand men did it for the kings birthday,a leading song on the radio was "I'm vasectomized."
I bet lots of women and men would get it done for a free iPad or iPhone.Toss in tax breaks or maybe a cash persuader.

here were some doctors on the east coast "illegally" sterilizing young teenage women without them knowing. so it seems the tubes tying isn't needed. it was the areas gov trying to reduce childhood birth and prevent those poor people from having kids.

I don't think any of this idea is good. it's borderline nazi style.

also there is still lots of unused land in north America, so are over populated like in asia.

Actually USA was like this waaaaaay before the Nazis. It's called Eugenics.

That unused land should stay unused,the last thing we need is a person on every square foot of land in the world,it's like bacteria taking over a Petri dish.

I a was on place of such woman, I would have sued the hospital for gigantic damages, so great to bring the hospital into bankruptcy, it can not accept new patients would. Such a situation occurred the situation some, some years ago in Poland, the woman had several children of 5 or 6, I do not remember, caesarean section clipped her fallopian tubes. What she learned from the family doctor. She sued the hospital for damages if they won it would be one of the largest compensation in the history of Polish judiciary. Lawyers of the hospital say the the doctors made up their minds directly to the operating room, the woman's life was in danger. Lawyers of the women say that it was a decision motivated eugenics because of their poor family.

If she had she won, the hospital would have to declare bankruptcy due to insolvency. It's a simple provincial district hospital has financial problems like many public hospitals in Poland, but in his case it is to be or not to be.

There are rumors that the women defense are funded by our Catholic Church, because she not earn enough to hire in the bests of Polish lawyers who take an hour several thousand Polish zlotys, maybe a little exaggerated, but they take a lot of money. Apparently the church depends on the finish of of this hospital. what hierarchs do not speak, because this hospital is one of the few in the province that is authorized to conduct legal abortion, and the church is against abortion.

The problem is that outside the branch of gynecology, the szptal also has a branch surgery, cardiology, oncology, and several other important branches. They also have to close if the hospital went bankrupt, so that the locals would have been deprived of specialized medical care.

It's not recommended to have over three c-sections,if she had five or six kids that way,I'd think they did it to protect her health.They do not tie tubes,they burn them shut with a laser.Both my babies were section kids.I had mine done while I was still open on the table,it's a lot cheaper that way,like about 90% cheaper.

She did not agree to this treatment. She agreed only on the c-section, what the cost is in Poland does not matter, because we have a public health care, and in most cases paid by Polish State Treasury, ie Polish taxpayers

This case has political overtones, reportedly the hierarchy of the church depends on the finish of this hospital due to his link with abortions. Apparently, her the parish priest persuaded her to establish a case in court, he told her that she can to make money. In my opinion, used only her and her husband's bitterness.

Polish law prohibits sterilization, it is admissible only in cases when there is a medical grounds.
Her lawyers argued that their client was sterilized with eugenic reasons, because she is poor, and eugenic practices are prohibited in Polish law.

So no one can get fixed just becuse they want to?There has to be a medical reason?What if they just don't like kids and don't want to have any.This seems like birth control is being denied to people who may want it.What if a man has six kids, doesn't want anymore becuse of financial reasons,and he can't get a vasectomy?

In Poland it easier to have an abortion which is also difficult, than give up castration or tie the fallopian tubes, but do not apply to pedophiles, they can apply for sterilization, it is then considered a legitimate medical case.

If someone really want to sterilize it can always go to the Czech Republic or Germany or any other EU country.

Although, as a woman who want to tie the fallopian tubes, or a man wants to undergo the procedure of vasectomy, such a procedure is performed, the doctor then write a fictitious reason for the patient's health card, everything is between the patient and the doctor, the prosecutor does not take itself to of such cases.

Prosecutor shall be the case if it is notified by the person directly concerned, which was, for example, sterilized without their consent. As in this case, which is described earlier

Although such a procedure must then usually pay because NFZ (National Health Fund) will not refund such treatments.

Although in the case of this woman surgery was performed under contract to the National Health Fund, as a lifesaving procedure, at least according hospital lawyers.

Implement the two child law, then make law forbidding the naming of children after other family members. No more Jr.s specifically. No more the II, III, IV etc. Might end up with fewer Conservatives. Conservatives believe sex is for procreation only. No intent of making baby= no sex= fewer Conservatives= better world for everyone.

didn't say all of it, but here in my state 58% is fed owned and unused, that's not even the total of the unused land here.
Nevada is like 90%, Alaska pays people to move there cause they have so much unused land. Canada has a boat load of it. compare us to china and we need more people no t less. I love nature I'm not saying destroy it i want lots of it preserved but there's still room for more people we aren't forced to have more apartments like in japan. we have people who own s**t ton of land for just 5 people or less. per the size of our land we are a low population i imagine this is why some nations would love to expand here.

we could continue to expand population in coexistence with nature. some of the east coast states may be reaching a point where they are over populated but Mississippi on to the west is very lowly populated precept for California but even that's only southern cal.



this simply isn't so. don't take a few conservatives to mean all do that and I will do the same with liberals. conservative Christians tend to be the most naughtiest in bedroom, they just don't talk about it due to shame.



not as wide spread or targeted though, also doesn't make the idea any less bad. this could lead to only sterilizing certain groups of people then putting them in camps etc.

It is mentally ill and disabled that were forced into sterilization in the US. In Nazi Germany, they didn't want certain groups breeding, including people who they thought had inferior genes which was everyone but them. It was more about putting them away in camps to keep them from doing it than to actually sterilize each one.

I'm with the "if you can feed them, you can't breed them" mentality, but frankly, we have a bigger issue with people having kids who are incapable of being good parents.

Any idiot can father a kid, but you need to pass a test to drive a car.

Just think of the offspring one oversexed PUA with a Viagra script can produce in a year.When the woman gets pregnant,she's out a commission for nine months,she can only have a baby a year,but an irresponsible man could father dozens.(of course they should be using condoms to prevent disease,but some people just don't care,or get carried away in the throws of lust.)

Yes, just think of it -- people living differently than you, and by values other than your own. The horror.