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14 Aug 2014, 9:46 am

I eat canned fava beans and hommos. :(



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14 Aug 2014, 9:49 am

All I can eat are frozen black eyed peasl, heated, of course, and those are delicious.



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14 Aug 2014, 9:50 am

Maybe it's different where you live. I'm pretty sure there are no preservatives in it here, because you won't really need any if you can something and then heat it up. They found canned food in a shipwreck of over 100 years old and when tested the food was still ok. I know people who work in the food industry, and quality control is so strict they wouldn't get away with putting stuff in it and not labeling it. Quality control both from the government and from the grocery stores they sell it to (such as Aldi). I don't know how the quality control or labeling is in the US. I did hear on the news a while ago that American meat cannot be exported to the EU because it does not meet standards (too much antibiotics or hormones or something).

Oh, the pea soup quickly spoils when I open it and forget to put it in the refrigerator. If there are any preservatives in it they are not doing a good job.



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14 Aug 2014, 9:57 am

They put sodium nitrate in all the canned stuff and I am deathly allergic to that. I wouldn't eat any of it and it says to be sure it is thoroughly heated before eating on the label of most canned goods so it goes to show it isn't bacteria free. I am also allergic to canned chicken, shrimp. soup. cold cuts, the ingredient in drinks like Sunny D and daiquiri mixes.

Anyway, the bacteria isn't my issue it's the sodium nitrates. They cause my stomach lining to become severely inflamed and sometimes, it swells. Intense pangs linger for days after. I have to take lots of Benadryl and antacids.



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14 Aug 2014, 10:04 am

In the Netherlands the brown beans (similar to kidney beans, but less reddish) are most eaten I think. And also tomato beans (white beans in tomato sauce).



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14 Aug 2014, 10:11 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
They put sodium nitrate in all the canned stuff and I am deathly allergic to that. I wouldn't eat any of it and it says to be sure it is thoroughly heated before eating on the label of most canned goods so it goes to show it isn't bacteria free. I am also allergic to canned chicken, shrimp. soup. cold cuts, the ingredient in drinks like Sunny D and daiquiri mixes.

Anyway, the bacteria isn't my issue it's the sodium nitrates. They cause my stomach lining to become severely inflamed and sometimes, it swells. Intense pangs linger for days after. I have to take lots of Benadryl and antacids.


Sounds like a nasty allergy. Aren't they required to label it? I looked it up, it's labeled E251 in the EU and INS 251 in the US. I checked my can of pea soup again and it doesn't contain E251. Also, they are required to specifically label allergies on the can so it says, after the list of ingredients:
Contains: cellery, soy
Can contrain trace amounts of: milk, gluten, egg, mustard (this usually means the product is produced in a plant where they also produce products with these ingredients. Peanuts and other nuts are commonly listed as well).

I'm allergic to most (uncooked) fruits and nuts btw. They are usually easy to avoid. Not allergic to peanuts since they are technically not nuts.



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14 Aug 2014, 10:30 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I eat canned fava beans and hommos. :(


I ate hommos once. It was awful.
To be fair I did not know I was supposed to eat it with bread, I just gobbed it down on its own. It's pretty rare here, I think they are now selling it because of immigrants from the Mediterranean.
But why do you eat it when you don't like it?



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14 Aug 2014, 10:32 am

There are people here who know about preservatives and food??! !!

Tesco are bad for preservatives. They load them into canned foods and their bakery items.


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14 Aug 2014, 10:40 am

I don't have a can handy to look at because I check the ingredient list for sodium nitrate and so many have them. I put it back on the shelf at the store. Just says sodium nitrate.

I do have some Lipton's chicken noodle instant soup packets and the box says preservative free and the box does not list sodium nitrate although it has a lot of powders and mononitrate it claims is vitamin B1. I don't do well with sulfuric things, including egg yolks even though I can eat them.

When I eat soup from these instant packets, and they are the only ones I have found so far that are preservative free, I get a slight hunger pang after eating it (which is a mild symptom of my allegy) but it isn't as severe.



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14 Aug 2014, 10:51 am

smudge wrote:
There are people here who know about preservatives and food??! !!

Tesco are bad for preservatives. They load them into canned foods and their bakery items.


I just checked the Tesco pea soup on their website, and the ham in it contains sodium nitrite (which is different from sodium nitrate, but still a preservative). This was in a plastic container. Just checked their canned pea soup and that one also has sodium nitrate.
The soup is also pretty different from the Dutch version of pea soup. It contains fewer vegetables, and is waaaay more expensive (2.40 pound for 600g in the plastic container, compared to 99 cents (euro) for 800g here).
I looked at the baked beans from Tesco, and those don't seem to contain any preservatives (apart from the vinegar and salt).



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14 Aug 2014, 11:15 am

Buy canned goods at a natural foods store,chemical free.I can't eat MSG,kicks the IBS in big time and I think possibly I may have an issue with nitrates.The best way to do beans is to buy dry and use a crock pot.Pintos and Anasazi beans are great.Ive only ate fava beans once and I became a methane generator,won't eat those again,they were delicious but the after effects!! !!Hummus is sold here,even in podunk Arkansas.I like it,but I don't like garbanzos on their own.I grow lots of field peas here,nothing is better than fresh purple hulls,a slice of onion,and homemade cornbread.Maybe some fried okra and a slice of ripe tomato on the side.


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14 Aug 2014, 11:42 am

Misslizard wrote:
I grow lots of field peas here,nothing is better than fresh purple hulls,a slice of onion,and homemade cornbread.Maybe some fried okra and a slice of ripe tomato on the side.


I'm coming to your place for dinner!


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14 Aug 2014, 11:56 am

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One must remember, as well, that poor inner-city neighborhoods usually lack good supermarkets where one could get good deals. This is true in NYC. In the inner city, "bodegas" are dominant. While there are some small supermarkets, they tend to have convenience-store prices rather than supermarket prices. Since many inner-city residents don't have cars, they don't have much access to such supermarkets as Stop N Shop, where they could get reasonable prices for nutritious food.

Therefore, they are forced to rely on rice or pasta-based dishes bought in the bodegas, or from take-out places (mostly Chinese).


With white flight from the inner cities, so went the businesses they ran, leaving poverty stricken African American without the means to buy proper food, or even places to buy it at.


I'm guessing if you offered your average "poverty stricken African American" the choice between Micky D's and health food it would be Micky D's that would win out 9 timed out of 10. There's a reason why you still find fast food in the poorer inner city; it actually sells.


Even if that's so, it would be nice if people in inner cities actually had a choice in what they eat. And I seriously there isn't a choice in their neighborhoods because they just didn't want to buy healthy food.


The key there is improving one's lot so they will be in a better position to make those choices.....


As I already stated, with white flight years before, so went most businesses that provided jobs, and now most businesses won't relocate to the inner city. What job openings there are are so few that most people in inner city neighborhoods can't expect to become employed. The business community has to be willing to do their part in order to raise people in poor communities up, and that means to overcome their prejudices and relocate to the places they and their predecessors had deserted.


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14 Aug 2014, 12:06 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I grow lots of field peas here,nothing is better than fresh purple hulls,a slice of onion,and homemade cornbread.Maybe some fried okra and a slice of ripe tomato on the side.


I'm coming to your place for dinner!

We will have blackberry cobbler for dessert. :D


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14 Aug 2014, 12:10 pm

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The business community has to be willing to do their part in order to raise people in poor communities up, and that means to overcome their prejudices and relocate to the places they and their predecessors had deserted.


That has absolutely no financial value for most businesses that would be measurable within a time frame that would keep stock values rising.

The concept of the long term benefit of the shareholders has turned into the benefit of the shareholders for the next dozen or so quarters (or less, when the CEO/CFO/COO gets bonuses based on quarterly metrics).


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14 Aug 2014, 12:11 pm

Misslizard wrote:
sonofghandi wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I grow lots of field peas here,nothing is better than fresh purple hulls,a slice of onion,and homemade cornbread.Maybe some fried okra and a slice of ripe tomato on the side.


I'm coming to your place for dinner!

We will have blackberry cobbler for dessert. :D


I'm on my way!


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