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Did no one read the articles where there were at least 85 deaths in a period of four years in China from people wielding a bladed weapon? There were over 200 wounded in the attacks, as well.

If you look up the mass murders in America (those where 4 or more people were killed) there are quite a few where the perpetrator used a knife or fire.
This website is a little fear based, but they have a good chart that shows the mass murders by year/month and what was used to commit them. A lot of them seem to be revenge killings (angry boyfriend/girlfriend) or gang related. Mass Killings in America

Since I am female and not full of upper body strength...

You do know that there's a mechanical device out there that can easily compensate for that in an emergency situation, right?

I never said knives can't kill but there's a reason why crossbows and firearms were invented. It's because knives weren't good enough.

And 85 deaths is just a drop in the bucket in the US. You can have that many alone in a city like Chicago and it's from, you guessed it, guns. One year we had a huge amount down here, for the most part, firearm related. The only year that had more murders was the one someone blew up a building and the only reason is because a bomb was used instead of guns.

Domestic abusers often use guns to intimidate their partners. For example, a man might brandish his gun in order to intimidate his wife.

The very nature of weapons is those who are in most need of weapons for self-defense are the least likely to seek them out. Those who value peace above aggression are less likely to be inclined to buy a gun.

Who wants to bring a gun to church? Sorry but we are living in fear if we feel we need to bring a gun everywhere we go. Maybe we can't do any better than this as a country, as a species. I just think it's sad.

All valid points. We should not have to carry guns everywhere, and the fact that many now believe we now need them for our own self-protection, really IS sad. It shouldn't be this way. We - I mean all of us, as a species - should be able to sort out the problem of violence, in all its forms.

Since I am female and not full of upper body strength, I would either try to trip the guy if he was running past me by sticking my foot or leg out in front of him or, if I saw others running to tackle him I would definitely join them. I've had car wrecks happen in front of my eyes and immediately rushed over to see if everyone was okay so I am not squirmish in those situations but I would need the right situation. If I thought I could jump on him from behind and hold him in a neck lock I'd do that. I would hope others would assist me though because if it's just me and some husky person they have more physical prowess than I. With a gun, I would be more freaked out because I know the guy can turn and shoot very very easily. I would be like, woah, gotta figure out something else. Might be able to tackle while his back is to me by jumping and locking on the neck. In a mass shooting situation, what people forget is, if they all become a giant blob and run toward the whomever is shooting, that's they all they need to do. He's gone. It's just mustering the courage to do it and the teamwork too but it's really easy to overpower one person. It's just everyone panics and freezes. When you do that you are like one of those games at the fair where the target never moves and all you have to do is aim and hit, a sitting duck basically. What people need to realize is this. If you freeze he will shoot you, so you got nothing to lose by rushing him and it's basic math, if ten or twelve people jump on one guy at the same time, he is going to crumble. Rushing is ALWAYS the best option. I would encourage people, teamwork, rush, take down, sit on him with your knees in his back, like cops do. That's it. If you run at him you knock him off balance and he's gotta be really determined to keep his weapon in his hand if you knock him really swiftly because odds are his reflexes will get the better of him and that weapon will go flying out of his hand. Gotta be quick and strong though. The more people tackling him the better. And yes, I would participate in that scenario because I am not that skittish in an emergency. With all these tornadoes, I have adapted well to emergencies. I would do my part. Keeping your head together and not allowing yourself to feel fear your best ally in survival.



People are much more powerful in these situations than they realize. Look at animals who school or herd together then run very quickly and agilely when they sense danger. Take a cue from them. They do it for a reason, to protect themselves, to appear intimidating and larger than life. You have to present the same profile in a situation with one shooter. It's a matter of many people rushing one person. You don't do it by yourself because yes, you are correct, chances are you would get stabbed. The worst thing anyone can do is freeze and think they have more a chance surviving that way than if they either ran or rushed. Rushing would be the best thing though because when you run away, when someone has a gun, it's easier for them to keep shooting as you are running. But if many people are running toward the guy with the gun, he will have a much harder time shooting them all at once, he would get tackled and lives would be saved. You might think, but he will just shoot the ones coming toward him...my answer is the guy is going to shoot no matter what you do so what is your best option? If you cannot get away from him easily, as in locking a door and be sure he cannot enter through that door otherwise, you are toast, then a group of people all need to run at him from different directions all at the same time and knock him on his ass.



It's tougher with a gun because he can shoot faster than a guy can stab but it's well worth it even with a gun because what do you have to lose?

Keep in mind these shooters could be covered head to toe in tactical gear like the dude over in Colorado. It's not always so easy just to shoot someone these days but all that gear cannot stop him from going down if a swarm tackles him.

And that's another thing, if someone is trying to stab others and someone comes along with a gun, it's super easy just to shoot the guy with the knife and that was done where I live, at this food processing plant. A guy stabbed two women and was taken out by the owner of the plant who was trained since he was a sheriff's deputy. He easily stopped the man with the knife. The only reason he didn't stop him sooner is awareness of what was unfolding.

Domestic abusers often use guns to intimidate their partners. For example, a man might brandish his gun in order to intimidate his wife.

The very nature of weapons is those who are in most need of weapons for self-defense are the least likely to seek them out. Those who value peace above aggression are less likely to be inclined to buy a gun.

Who wants to bring a gun to church? Sorry but we are living in fear if we feel we need to bring a gun everywhere we go. Maybe we can't do any better than this as a country, as a species. I just think it's sad.

holocaust. you had hundreds, sometimes thousands of jews vs very few germans with mostly bolt action 5 round rifles. if they'd rose up they could likely have won, but then 100 or so of them would have died. they instead hoped to survive. this didn't work out unfortunately as the same as it doesn't' work out in mass killings. but humans have a survival instinct which tells us not to risk it. a slight chance of living is better then increasing our odds of dying sooner. same with POW camps.

also not saying the jews were weak. they just got stuck up in natural human reactions and fear. same as people digging their own graves because they hope they'll be able to escape or talk their way out of it.

so um yeah bullets go through tactical gear. see it's just fabric with sewn on pouches.

body armor is what stops bullets. the shooter in that case had none. only shooting where they did was the la shoot out in the 80s.

I never said knives can't kill but there's a reason why crossbows and firearms were invented. It's because knives weren't good enough.

And 85 deaths is just a drop in the bucket in the US. You can have that many alone in a city like Chicago and it's from, you guessed it, guns. One year we had a huge amount down here, for the most part, firearm related. The only year that had more murders was the one someone blew up a building and the only reason is because a bomb was used instead of guns.

If people keep on focusing on firearms in Chicago and not the root cause of the violence, they're never going to fix the problem.

If the Poles had the military training and weapons, they could have easily fought off the Germans. There were uprisings, just not enough guns to outgun Germany so they failed. A war is a bit different. Anytime you have hundreds of men with machine guns, the odds become worse. My logic is based on a lone shooter, like most in the US are, with a few exceptions, namely the high school shootings in Littleton, Colorado, which is probably the most infamous. Still with two shooters, it can be done. With several shooters, it becomes more difficult. With several, there's just going to be a lot of casualties no matter what. It's a sad reality. So, you have to figure out the best course of action to take. The best one is to go someplace the shooters cannot access but this is not always possible and when your back is to the wall, you have to react quickly. Of course you can hope someone has a weapon such as a gun and can take the shooters out, but this doesn't always happen, for various reasons. I guess if there's a stray bottle of liquor around, you can make an ied of your own and throw it at the shooters. Another good strategy is to play dead since they might not want to waste bullets on anyone not moving. In fact, if you are really close and there's no one willing to tackle the shooter, this is a decent strategy and it has saved people's lives. So if the shooting is happening somewhere nearby but not close enough to get hit with a bullet, fleeing to a safe location is still the smartest thing to do. Rushing is good if everyone is in one room together and doesn't have time to run away without getting shot. If someone's running past you, don't forget to throw something in his way to trip him up.




I thought he had a bullet proof vest among other things.