Here's the REAL question for GOP[h]ers...
You could force every gun shop in America to provide a platter of little pork sausages on tooth picks next to the register. If a customer refuses to eat one-then you can't sell 'em a gun!
But then vegetarians and vegans couldn't buy guns.
Don't be silly!
Vegans are all tree huggers who dont touch guns!
So they wouldnt even be effected!
Sure they have guns,how else will you defend the trees from loggers?
You can't just swat them with a hickory switch,they have chainsaws.
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Yes, but only if they are Citizens.
That takes years and good behavior.
Long term, reducing Social Stress.
We have Media Driven click bait, calling many groups baby killers.
Since about 1972, we have had no Mental Health services.
Now it is Medical or Police.
Some people are nutters, and often need a vacation where they can become stable, for a while at least.
Mental Health is now treated by homelessness and drinking.
In a declining economy some feel hopeless. A vision of a future seems needed to put up with day to day life.
We have problems, in Japan children kill themselves because they did not get into the good Middle School.
Why? America was rural until WWII. Migration to the urban has produced a great increase in population pressure.
America has become 24/7. Weekends and vacations have been lost. No down time.
Suburban sprawl has made a border between city and country, up to WWII cities were surrounded by country, farms, animals, trees, birds. It was within walking distance. Most have lost all connection with nature.
False media realities, In the 1960s we were told the future would be overpopulated, and we had to reduce our numbers. Birth Control, Abortion, at least a hundred million Americans not born. Now with a stable population we are being told we will crash and burn unless we bring in a hundred million Africans.
Real wages and the value of our money have been in decline for forty five years, the government passes NAFTA, and sends our jobs to China. So now we are unemployed and on food stamps, but a few politically connected people made billions. We are also the customers for the goods we no longer make.
It is not like we are getting cheap goods, they cost as much as ever, some more, but we do not have the jobs.
I went out to buy a hand mirror, a plastic backed four inch with a plastic handle, $15.99. That is less than $1 in materials and manufacturing. $2 retail would be fair value.
We are being ripped off everywhere.
We can work together, we need a vision of where we are going, and it cannot be cheap and ugly.
You have to take away our guns before you can take away our Constitution, then you can take away our country.
I object.
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Whats prayer going to do? exactly.
Ask the Republicans.
What does that mean?
Just what I thought. Another "goon" that can make fun of the other side (that's the easy part), but not come up with any action plan of their own. You're actually on the right side - the Left, standing behind a president who also has no action plan. Keep up the good work.
What makes you think the left entirely stands behind him? I don't think he is the worst president, but I certainly think we could do better. Also though I don't see the right coming up with a real plan or even a real candidate for that matter, what Donald Trump? Even conservatives are wanting to distance themselves from the republican party. Also the religious right is probably one of the most dangerous groups in this country, if they get their way and get to start legislating any religious morality that is going to cause a lot of problems.
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The and the corollary question...should Christians?
Now wait a minute: surely the vast majority of violent criminals are Democrats. If we're going to start denying Second Amendment rights to various groups, that would be a logical place to start.
And who's already trained in safe weapons handling? Military veterans. If there were a proposal to limit private gun ownership to atheistic vets who are not Democrats, I guess I couldn't object.
The deaths caused by both the San Bernadino couple, and by the Paris team of terrorists, combined is dwarfed by the death toll inflicted by one native born White guy on his own countrymen in one spree shooting.:Andre Brevik.
And he did it in the name of his political creed which was...opposition to immigration!
So obviously the most evil group of all are...native born folks who are opposed to immigration!
Selling them guns would be OUT OF THE QUESTION!
Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, and anyone expressing approval of either of those two nativists- we have NO CHOICE- but to put them all into internment camps NOW!
Muslims killed way more people in America. Compare 9/11 attacks to this "Andre Brevik".
Every year on 9/11 , tv shows the Muslim killer movies.
Muslims are creative. They use planes , or bombs, or suicide bombers.
No coincidence that we have been slaughtering them for decades now.
And the U.S killed way more people in Japan in Hiroshima, compare that to the 9/11 attacks.
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The and the corollary question...should Christians?
Freedom of expression.
What about harassing, obstructing public property and such...those anti-abortion protestors will get in peoples face to the point of harassment which is not covered under freedom of expression, same with those 'god hates fags' people they also harass people.
Also the last guy pictured shot up a planned parenthood, that is freedom of expression to you?
There is even a nasty state representative in my state in the process of being recalled for making a statement condoning said attack, is that also 'freedom of expression' or inciting violence?
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Except for when they harass people you think their constitutional right covers showing up to funerals uninvited to scream about how god hates fags and that is why said person is dead? Its usually funerals of dead military veterens to. Do neo-nazis also have the right to show up at jewish funerals and cause a disturbance? I suppose they cannot be entirely banned from assembling but that doesn't mean they can legally assemble wherever they want.
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I forgot how dangerous christians are. Also, I did a bit of research and guess what? This year we've had over 350 mass shootings and EVERY ONE WAS DONE by at least 1 US citizen!! ! ! ! !
US citizens are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!
So, I think we need to ban gun sales to Muslims, Christians, and US citizens until our representatives can figure out what's going on!
Good idea, huh?
That number is a lie its from a Reddit anti gun group who's requirements to be considered a mass shooting is almost anything. Included in it is a boy shooting 3 other boys with a BB gun, by that logic I attended lots of mass shootings growing up but we called them air soft and paintball games. Even motherjones a gun control and anti gun big supporter said that number is false according to theirs and governments way of defining mass shooters which is a murder/shooting of 4 or more people.
That number of 350 includes gang shootings, defensive cases, officer involved shooting, family members killing family, etc. not the 10-30 murder people usually think of when they see mass shooting. It's set up to make people think that every day 10+people die in a mass shooting it's made up to support the banning guns agenda by people mind you who make fun of the victims as.
If it was true then why didn't the news cover it?
The "real" number according to them and what they say the fbi says is 73 since 1982 with only 4 in 2015.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opini ... .html?_r=0
Really if there was a mass shooting every day like cnn says the. They'd been too busy to talk about anything else. Their agenda is banning all guns do you really think they'd not report on each and every mass shooting that happen?
Surely you are educated enough on the issue to know that Congress banned the CDC - and renewed that ban again on lobbying by the NRA - from even collecting data on how many people are killed each year due to guns (and the circumstances, types of shooting, etc).
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Hey, I'm just trying to sus out their thought process here...
Apparently it's okay to ban all muslims because of a few bad actors. Why not ban guns for the same reason?
I'm just looking for a little consistency here.
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The and the corollary question...should Christians?
Freedom of expression.
What about harassing, obstructing public property and such...those anti-abortion protestors will get in peoples face to the point of harassment which is not covered under freedom of expression, same with those 'god hates fags' people they also harass people.
Also the last guy pictured shot up a planned parenthood, that is freedom of expression to you?
There is even a nasty state representative in my state in the process of being recalled for making a statement condoning said attack, is that also 'freedom of expression' or inciting violence?
I've already addressed this as good as I'm going to at the bottom of the last page.
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Hey, I'm just trying to sus out their thought process here...
Apparently it's okay to ban all muslims because of a few bad actors. Why not ban guns for the same reason?
I'm just looking for a little consistency here.
The right to bear arms is an enumerated right in our constitution. Show me which one says we have to allow unchecked immigration. Take your time.
Besides, that's not what you were after. You were wanting us to say that the right to bear arms does not apply to Muslims so you could call us hypocrites.
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You could force every gun shop in America to provide a platter of little pork sausages on tooth picks next to the register, and just make it illegal to sell a gun to any customer who refuses to eat one.
that would also exclude jewish people and seventh day adventists and all other vegetarians.
I can't speak for Goonsquad but I sure do. PPR seems empty and boring without a good full time troll. Sure, I do my share of teasing at times but it's just not the same.
PS: I don't think Goonsquad would be a suitable replacement for our former troll.
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson
The and the corollary question...should Christians?
Now wait a minute: surely the vast majority of violent criminals are Democrats. If we're going to start denying Second Amendment rights to various groups, that would be a logical place to start.
And who's already trained in safe weapons handling? Military veterans. If there were a proposal to limit private gun ownership to atheistic vets who are not Democrats, I guess I couldn't object.
The deaths caused by both the San Bernadino couple, and by the Paris team of terrorists, combined is dwarfed by the death toll inflicted by one native born White guy on his own countrymen in one spree shooting.:Andre Brevik.
And he did it in the name of his political creed which was...opposition to immigration!
So obviously the most evil group of all are...native born folks who are opposed to immigration!
Selling them guns would be OUT OF THE QUESTION!
Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, and anyone expressing approval of either of those two nativists- we have NO CHOICE- but to put them all into internment camps NOW!
Muslims killed way more people in America. Compare 9/11 attacks to this "Andre Brevik".
Every year on 9/11 , tv shows the Muslim killer movies.
Muslims are creative. They use planes , or bombs, or suicide bombers.
No coincidence that we have been slaughtering them for decades now.
And the U.S killed way more people in Japan in Hiroshima, compare that to the 9/11 attacks.
Apples to oranges comparison. Check your history; Japan started the whole thing and it was decided that as a result Japan was going to be conquered one way or the other. It was either nuke them into a surrender or kill even more of them (and us) by a land invasion. They were in for a f*****g one way or the other.
9/11 was unprovoked except in the eyes of the terrorists and thier sympathisers/supporters.
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson
You could force every gun shop in America to provide a platter of little pork sausages on tooth picks next to the register. If a customer refuses to eat one-then you can't sell 'em a gun!
But then vegetarians and vegans couldn't buy guns.
Don't be silly!
Vegans are all tree huggers who dont touch guns!
So they wouldnt even be effected!
Sure they have guns,how else will you defend the trees from loggers?
You can't just swat them with a hickory switch,they have chainsaws.
Many people don't know the trees being "hugged" are some of the last, few, small, "old growth" forests not chopped down, in the United States. These trees are huge and very tall.
So the non-violent method for resistance is to climb as high as you possibly can and haul up food, water, poop bags, etc. and stay up there as long as possible. This has helped slow down this destruction of our national heritage, but the law (along with business, which directs it), allows the environmental destruction of our heritage to continue.
Another method is to have people circle the tree and chain themselves to it and each other. A variant of this is to handcuff to each other and wear rubber gloves and encase the handcuffs and gloved hands in fast drying cement mixed with ball bearings and such. But definitely no gun play allowed. These are usually gentle, law abiding, peaceful people.
There are some people who benefit from this destruction, but it's not you and I or future generations. The profiteers are the people who try to make you think "tree hugger" is some type of evil person (to stand in the way of their profit).
Googling "old growth forest map" would give you an idea of what's happened; the same thing we're actively trying to stop happening in other parts of the world.
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