Kraichgauer
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17 Dec 2015, 4:26 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's second term is almost up, for crying out loud! Is anyone even beating this dead horse anymore?
Raptor wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Obama was born in an Hawaiian hospital--on US soil--while Hawaii was a state--case closed. He was a product of a romance between an American student and a Kenyan student studying in America.
Yeah, but it's still fun to f**k with the Obama supporters with the "birther" thing just for kicks.
I rest my case...
Might that just be a sign of a personality defect on your part?
Anyone with two braincells to rub together could have seen from the get-go that the big bag evil "birthers" were never going to get their way. If anyone has a personality defect it's those that scream "the sky is falling" every time Obama catches any flak or when just about any non-progressive candidate displays an interest in running for president.
Really, I honestly think that if somehow we could hold the left's collective hand and whisper into thier collective ear that no matter what they'll still get their welfare and fraudulent SSDI checks we'd never hear another peep from them.
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17 Dec 2015, 4:36 am
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Really, I honestly think that if somehow we could hold the left's collective hand and whisper into thier collective ear that no matter what they'll still get their welfare and fraudulent SSDI checks we'd never hear another peep from them.
Right then, so you are blanket accusing people on disability of being frauds............ because no one actually has a legitimate diagnosed disability that is preposterous.
Yet I am sure I have seen you complain about people blanket generalizing the right, interesting.
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Kraichgauer
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17 Dec 2015, 11:34 am
17 Dec 2015, 1:08 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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How are they going to prosecute executives in the companies they are bailing out? Convictions happen based on mostly or solely on circumstantial evidence everyday. They did not really want to prosecute. You could of gotten gotten of jurors that want to convict these executives.
The economy is running on stretched out credit, tax loopholes, and accounting tricks anything but fundamentally sound.
But you are 30 so you probably do not remember an economy where a job was available to most who wanted one, and most of the jobs you did not have to worry about bieng laid off once you got a few years in with a company and did not have to worry about retirement or benefits for the most part. So the 2015 economy probably does seem good to you.
The economy is running on stretched out credit, tax loopholes, and accounting tricks anything but fundamentally sound.
But you are 30 so you probably do not remember an economy where a job was available to most who wanted one, and most of the jobs you did not have to worry about bieng laid off once you got a few years in with a company and did not have to worry about retirement or benefits for the most part. So the 2015 economy probably does seem good to you.
The economic situation where jobs were once so plentiful was back during my childhood. My dad had a good paying, steady job with great benefits and vacation time, my mom didn't have to work, and we enjoyed a middle class lifestyle. I don't recall my dad ever having been laid off. My employment history, filled with layoffs and long periods of unemployment, bears no resemblance to what I had known when growing up. The change came with that demigod of the right, Ronny Raygun, who made the bad guys out to be union guys like my dad who were only looking for the American dream for themselves and their families. The real villains aren't illegals, or union members, or poor people needing assistance, but Raygun's worshipers, and their masters in the business community.
You forgot Ayn Rand and Rush Limbaugh since I'm sure they had a hand in what you think has caused your misery.
More reminiscing about the good old days from you. Does it ever get old? Economic swings and periods of high unemployment have plagued us for several generations. It's not solely some kind of a post-Raygun blight.
When the US was manufacturing the consumer widgets that Asia is doing now you all complained about what the factories in the US were doing to the environment. If all TV's were to be made in the US again and what is now a $400 TV becomes a $1000 TV guess who'd complain the loudest?
Pretty long economic downswing, don't you think? How many decades has it been? And when is that upswing supposed to just miraculously appear?
And by the way, if corporate America kept up wages, then workers could afford those $1000 dollar TV's!
Yeah, right; we've been in famine since the 80's. We live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval!
If people are so poor these days it sure isn't evident by the way the average citizen throws money around.
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As for your previous post addressed to me concerning people allegedly faking disabilities - - what Sweetleaf said.
And you and Sweetleaf automatically think it's specifically about the two of you...
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17 Dec 2015, 3:39 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
How are they going to prosecute executives in the companies they are bailing out? Convictions happen based on mostly or solely on circumstantial evidence everyday. They did not really want to prosecute. You could of gotten gotten of jurors that want to convict these executives.
The economy is running on stretched out credit, tax loopholes, and accounting tricks anything but fundamentally sound.
But you are 30 so you probably do not remember an economy where a job was available to most who wanted one, and most of the jobs you did not have to worry about bieng laid off once you got a few years in with a company and did not have to worry about retirement or benefits for the most part. So the 2015 economy probably does seem good to you.
The economy is running on stretched out credit, tax loopholes, and accounting tricks anything but fundamentally sound.
But you are 30 so you probably do not remember an economy where a job was available to most who wanted one, and most of the jobs you did not have to worry about bieng laid off once you got a few years in with a company and did not have to worry about retirement or benefits for the most part. So the 2015 economy probably does seem good to you.
The economic situation where jobs were once so plentiful was back during my childhood. My dad had a good paying, steady job with great benefits and vacation time, my mom didn't have to work, and we enjoyed a middle class lifestyle. I don't recall my dad ever having been laid off. My employment history, filled with layoffs and long periods of unemployment, bears no resemblance to what I had known when growing up. The change came with that demigod of the right, Ronny Raygun, who made the bad guys out to be union guys like my dad who were only looking for the American dream for themselves and their families. The real villains aren't illegals, or union members, or poor people needing assistance, but Raygun's worshipers, and their masters in the business community.
You forgot Ayn Rand and Rush Limbaugh since I'm sure they had a hand in what you think has caused your misery.
More reminiscing about the good old days from you. Does it ever get old? Economic swings and periods of high unemployment have plagued us for several generations. It's not solely some kind of a post-Raygun blight.
When the US was manufacturing the consumer widgets that Asia is doing now you all complained about what the factories in the US were doing to the environment. If all TV's were to be made in the US again and what is now a $400 TV becomes a $1000 TV guess who'd complain the loudest?
Pretty long economic downswing, don't you think? How many decades has it been? And when is that upswing supposed to just miraculously appear?
And by the way, if corporate America kept up wages, then workers could afford those $1000 dollar TV's!
Yeah, right; we've been in famine since the 80's. We live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval!
If people are so poor these days it sure isn't evident by the way the average citizen throws money around.
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As for your previous post addressed to me concerning people allegedly faking disabilities - - what Sweetleaf said.
And you and Sweetleaf automatically think it's specifically about the two of you...That's the go to explanation used by conservatives every time. No, Americans are for the most part not starving, but they are definitely working longer hours for less pay, and less or no benefits, and thus the economy in it's whole suffers for lack of disposable income in the hands of American workers. America is not the job market it had been in my father's time, and it doesn't seem to be getting any better any time soon.
As for your second point - I'm not on disability, though I suspect I would qualify. Regardless, I have a great deal of sympathy for anyone in need of help. I don't buy that crap that people on disability are faking it, regardless of how many times Rand Paul or Ted Cruz repeats it.
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