I hate feminazis

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Yes, they live in the mythical land known as "Tumblr", and colonies can be observed at Jezebel, Everydayfeminism, Salon, Feministing, or in the wild on virtually any liberal arts college these days. Totally made up.

You must be hanging around some weird mutant strain of SJWs if they're self applying the term, I actually try and avoid it myself because using it has certain right wing connotations I'd prefer to avoid. Too bad, as it is handy catch all for overzealous culture warriors of a leftist authoritarian slant with peculiar definitions for previously uncontentious terms and such. The feminist components specifically is I think better understood as stick in the mud "everything fun is 'problematic'" killjoys than as misandrist gynosupremacists.

Wrong. What you'll find there are feminists who won't sit down and shut up when someone like you tells them to, and say things that hurt your feelings. Some of them are hilariously misinformed or incompetent, but I've yet to see any that even vaguely resemble any definition given here for "feminazi".

If you have an example, go ahead and give one. Just show me some links, if you can. My guess is you link to someone on tumblr that nobody actually cares about or listens to.

I don't think they are imaginary, I've seen them and heard from them...not sure about this forum in particular but this doesn't represent the whole internet let alone real life. Either way even if feminazis do not represent most feminists they still seem to be the loudest feminists and so perhaps they give it a bad name. Then again I don't usually see anything about other feminists calling out the extreme ones and criticizing their more extreme views...if anything it seems like they support those people and just play it down to 'oh they're just angry and passionate' well that is not an excuse for some things I have read from more radical feminists.

Also what is wrong with using terms like he/she? seems there I also effort to get rid of any gender specific nouns. Then one time I was reading up on something about how they wanted to change words like History because it has 'his' in it so aside from the more radical feminists it seems some are really into nit-picking language and finding sexism all of it....pretty sure people aren't trying to invalidate women by calling history, history or describing an animal of an unidentified gender as 'he' by default for instance. Come to think of it this topic was explored at school a few times to and these things were discussed.

Also it can be a bit annoying when people say feminism is about equality for all, well no it was about women's rights anymore it makes sense it addresses women's rights and equality, that is the focus it doesn't cover equality for all. I mean if that were the case feminists would also be fighting laws and mentalities that are unfair to males and any other groups.

I mean aside from the difference in pay, which I am still not sure what all explains it not so sure its as simple as employers intentionally writing women a lesser pay-check for the same job or if it averages out that way due to a bunch of various factors. But aside from equal pay not really sure what most feminists are fighting for I suppose. Also I find it odd they aren't speaking out against only males having to sign up for selective service if its expanded past fighting for women's rights and is about equality across the board.

All that said they must be doing something wrong, for even other females to take issue with the modern feminist movement.

Last edited by Sweetleaf on 22 Dec 2015, 11:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

I've only met a couple people in my life who are truly "Feminazis."

They are must more numerous on the Internet than they are in real life.

Most of them are probably just trying to play "devil's advocate" just for the fun of it.

So you're telling me that Cathy Brennan and Amanda Marcotte are not real people?!????

Well played.

I'm not so sure Cathy Brennan qualifies, she has a certain...reputation, for being in cahoots with exceedingly misogynistic conservative Christian organizations when it suits her ego. Not even her once staunch 1970's Second Wave worldview can compensate for that. She could easily be replaced by Anita Sarkeesian in your example, though.

For a bit of context to this conversation, "Feminazi" was a term largely invented or promoted by Lush Rimbomb - oh, sorry: Rush Limbaugh - to describe any woman who dared to complain about inequality or who was not willing to be a good, submissive wife & baby factory or (gasp!) simply expressed the view that everyone should be assumed equal. In his viewpoint, any such woman was automatically a radical feminist equal to the German Nazi regime for trying to impose on his sense of superiority and his very real privilege.

There was one feminist group who made a song (about their feminism) back when I listened to rush. Rush's idea was to mess with the audio property of the track to make them sound like chipmunks and call them all feminazis.

That's because everything is sexist if you want it to be. There's a video with links to news articles about all the stuff feminist have claimed sexism. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRquPxdHNGE
Also wish people would do more songs using the everything is awesome music

Well crap, going to have to come up with a new term....

I guess radical feminists or extreme feminism will have to suffice if the term feminazi instantly makes people minds go to the idiot Rush Limbaugh. Then again did he actually coin the term or just misuse it to describe any woman who is not submissive?

Precisely, I am sure I could find racism in just about anything if I tried really hard to...but at some point you gotta let people have a little breathing room. Like when someone says history they are not inferring only male historical figures matter so accusing them of that is just going to alienate them. Jumping down someones throat because they say pizza dude, mail man, fireman or things like that isn't going to bring any 'equality' and minimize discrimination or unfairness. Yet it seems some see this as a major social problem and proof of bigotry when I doubt most people are thinking 'only men should deliver mail' if they say 'mail-man'.

Um, yes she qualifies. She is ruthelessly intolerant of transsexuals and promotes conspiracy theories that trans women are men trying to infiltrate and destroy the feminist movement. Haven't you heard about the controversy regarding the Womyn's music festival where trans-women are excluded? Some attendees even complained about "crotch checks" where they were asked to show their genitals to the security officers in order to make sure they weren't trans-women.

Second wave feminism, or "womens lib", which took off in the 60s and 70s spawned the radical feminist movement. And that is what Rush was talking about when he coined the term "feminazi". The academic left exploits the first amendment to concoct some very extreme ideas which are based on a worldview that is out of touch with reality. But one of the strains of feminism that came out of "womens lib" is separatist feminism(which folks like Cathy Brennan are part of). The idea that women can only be free if they completely dissociate themselves from men and rely exclusively on each other for emotional and physical intimacy.

How many feminists have you taken the time to speak to? It's really easy not to see something if one chooses to ignore or avoid it. What you are left then is the tiny number of people saying things so vile that they cannot be ignored.

Feminists are about equality, which has not been achieved. Always have been; and feminists have fought for equality for males as well (e.g., paternity leave and getting women into Selective Service, which is something that could now happen). Yes, feminists do tell the absurd and hateful types to take a hike, but they can take their nonsense elsewhere and there's little to be done other than shunning them.

There is some tendency for people in social justice groups to be reluctant to actually cast anyone out for fear of appearing weak or divided. It's a problem I hope we can move past in the future; keeping on-message and moving forward is more important than trying to corral those people.

The "his" thing is honestly not a big deal to anyone I've ever met.

If you are genuinely curious about what feminism is about in the 21st century I can get you some stuff on that, when it's not the most stressful week in the whole year.



He coined the term.

Also, dime to a dollar "radical feminism" doesn't mean what you think it does. I'd also put down good money on a bet that most of the people in this thread would consider me a radical feminist.



Radical feminism is not the same as Third Wave feminism, though it's one school of thought within it. It did come into being within the "women's lib" Second Wave and has continued since. In truth, it's a view I have a great deal of sympathy for but which I find a bit off-base in its philosophical basis.

There was just a university professor who on camera threatened a college journalist asking for "muscle" to remove him from a public area had every right to be there under his first amendment right (and the fact that it was a public area which she had no authority to police). This was not the first hostile response this guy experienced during that protest.

In the UK a diversity officer was removed for hate speech and incitement.

You are sadly not well informed about the current situation.

Whether they want equality or not is debatable, what it not debatable is the groups I'm talking about are going about it the wrong way. They are asking for is completely draconian, and undemocratic and nothing to do with equality. They are also emphasising identity politics akin to segregation. Something that civil rights leaders fought hard to break down.

Also many of the examples cited of discrimination, aren't actually backed up by factual evidence, and often make fallacies like conflating equality of outcome with equality. Then the discrimination that is real, they come up with broad gernalised conspiracies, which do nothing to actually solve the issue.

This ideology dominates the curriculum of women's and gender studies in US university ATM. Feminist have spoken out about this too, but this is the type of feminism that is grabbing attention at the minute.

Don't forget that they are censoring games as well and not focusing on actually issues, like how women are treated in the middle east.

These people live in a first world country and they whine about digital depictions of characters in SOME games (not all). If you don't like it, don't play the game, simple as that.

Plus, there are insane posts like this

https://archive.is/aEbq5