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25 Feb 2016, 4:04 pm
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Also as a side note...I thought a trigger warning was for if you're like on an online or IRL mental health support group type thing, to warn people if you're about to go into detail about some horrific experience you had or saw that could trigger trauma symptoms in others. Or I remember in school when they showed videos that could be disturbing for less mature classmates or ones who maybe had a trauma/experience related they'd warn them to leave the room for it if nessisary.
So basically whatever a**hole decided its something to just throw around in front of anything that, anyone might find distasteful is using the idea in an entirely overblown and inappropriate manner I think.
So basically whatever a**hole decided its something to just throw around in front of anything that, anyone might find distasteful is using the idea in an entirely overblown and inappropriate manner I think.
Oh no, no, no.. Not anymore. It used to be. It's all over the place now. I get around the internet and I've seem people call for trigger warnings on innocuous things because it upset them and reminded them of something they went through, read, or actually imagines. And this is not just on mental health support forums where its needed.
Some schools put trigger warnings on reading lists because of a scene written in classical fiction. I saw a couple videos of a feminist and a college professor who was sick of it and was talking about it. So rather than just believe her I did a lot of googling. Real sites, not fringe or politically targeted places. I wish I had saved them now. I thought you would know about this. Lots seem to but I haven't watched the news since my mother died so I only just heard. I didn't know that the whole trigger warning thing was so widespread and its just a tiny bit of it.
I do urge you to look it up and look up progressive sjw. Google around and if you read something on a political site, try to find it on a nonbiased site too before you believe it. That's what I did. You will be shocked.
I saw a post on another forum where someone's car died and somebody got angry at the subject line announcing the news and insisted it be removed and a trigger warning be put for the post that announced it. AMD they apologized and did it. And this forum is made up of mainly moms discussing boring mom things and has all political and religious and ethnic and national etc groups there. Well not all but its open to all and its varied. So it's real common. Check around for real. And look at the video of the girl telling at her Prof at Yale for an email he sent saying let's try to have fun no matter that people will wear costumes on Halloween. It's insane. Commentaries differ depending on who uploads it but some actually explain it. Look at several because it's on lots of channels. That's what started the research and the nice Prof lady watching and then the googling and now the dog mumbling and posting.
I really should go back to Netflix and crochet its much more peaceful.
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25 Feb 2016, 4:05 pm
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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Political correctness is suffocating the west, it is a suicidal ideology and totalitarian in nature. You don't get to control speech, imagine how silly all those people that were literally beaten in the middle of the streets in the 60s fighting for their civil rights must feel that Dr. King's message of reconciliation and unity has been so completely lost by this current generation. This is a problem with WHITE liberals, blacks and hispanics don't play the PC game and in the deluded mind of a SJW they lead them in oppression points thus they can do and say whatever they want. The black and hispanic people I know(most of my classmates in public school) laugh at how scared whites are to say anything about race, I'm not talking about some spoiled child of a millionaire that cries about white privilege but rather the real folks that struggle every day that these liberals try to move as far away from as possible.
I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.
"i believe in free speech until THOSE PEOPLE start saying nasty things about me"I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.
you can't simultaneously believe in free speech and want to restrict it, that's not how free speech works.
Non sequitur, where did I say restrict anything? That is what YOU want you little wannabe fascist!
Is that all you got for an argument? You really are a dodo!
Maybe that's your first reaction to things you dislike, to ban it and imprison everyone that disagrees with you but you have me all wrong. I am calling political correctness suicidal, I am calling SJWs/the PC police useful idiots for extremist ideologues that we have allowed to to entrench themselves in higher education without ever venturing outside their little bubble. Oh what I want for you guys is much much worse for than than banning your speech, I want to take the ideological trash out of academia. They can go at preach some private college or on some soapbox in the street or cry on the internet, I do not care but for far too long we've given people who support MURDEROUS ideologies legitimacy and a literal free lunch for providing absolutely nothing of value to this country.
you can stop with the stupid communist dogwhistling also, that provides nothing of value either.
because that's not what your are actually advocating for and your terrible example if you think you are 'being nice to people' different then you. I guess that doesn't extend to those that disagree with you opinions?
There's a reason why we have 11+ illegal aliens in this country, there is a reason why the Middle East is in complete chaos, there's a reason why Europe is ripping apart at the seams, we're going bankrupt. We're not allowed to talk about the real issues or the solutions to them, we are stuck fighting over culturally insignificant garbage that fits with in their narrative. Not any more.
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25 Feb 2016, 4:07 pm
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
speaking of actions, do you regularly rabbit anti-jewish nazi propaganda?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
I can create wikipedia articles too
it's nonsense, calling it a conspiracy theory is nonsense
crying RACISM is nonsense especially from an over-privileged white doofuses, it's a way of deflecting when they are losing an argument
where did i mention racism?
ironically you speak of deflecting on my part when that's what you're doing right now
You are no longer being serious. You lose, I win. Lets have a poll if you disagree. Bring a legit argument or I'm just going to keep calling you stupid. The problem is that you are too much of a coward to say what you really want so you attack everyone else instead of defending your ideas. This cannot be turned around on me, I write more on here than anyone and actually enjoy educating the fools and truly ignorant.
you say i mentioned racism. where?
this isn't a fantasy world where declaring things without data makes them valid.
What was the implication by posting that wikipedia article then? Don't try to play dumb now. You have NO argument, you've been attacking people from your very first post in this thread. You are embarrassing yourself.
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25 Feb 2016, 4:10 pm
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...Do you see what I'm saying at all right now?
No. If you know that something like wearing blackface is offensive, why would you do it intentionally? If you don't know, then what's wrong with someone telling you?
Everybody knows wearing blackface is offensive. Nobody wore blackface. Most of the kids I've met know about this acne stuff and have used it. So these kids put it on and said "we look stupid. Let's post a pic" so they did. No different than if it was blue or green or chalk white. There are masks those colors too. This is the newest and best thing and everybody's using it and they all knew what it was. It just REMINDED somebody of blackface and they knew it wasn't but got offended anyway because it reminded them of it. They stated it in the report. And they made the kids apologize for something they didn't do and that nobody accused them of doing. They had to apologize that someone thought of blackface. Even though they all know about biore.
How is that right? How is this situation right? Please discuss these exact details with me and not go to generalities. Nobody wore black face but it made someone think of it. Not think they were wearing it, but think of blackface. You can't see that's overboard?
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25 Feb 2016, 4:12 pm
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25 Feb 2016, 4:13 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Political correctness is suffocating the west, it is a suicidal ideology and totalitarian in nature. You don't get to control speech, imagine how silly all those people that were literally beaten in the middle of the streets in the 60s fighting for their civil rights must feel that Dr. King's message of reconciliation and unity has been so completely lost by this current generation. This is a problem with WHITE liberals, blacks and hispanics don't play the PC game and in the deluded mind of a SJW they lead them in oppression points thus they can do and say whatever they want. The black and hispanic people I know(most of my classmates in public school) laugh at how scared whites are to say anything about race, I'm not talking about some spoiled child of a millionaire that cries about white privilege but rather the real folks that struggle every day that these liberals try to move as far away from as possible.
I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.
I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.
Government forcing political correctness, could be construed as totalitarian for sure. However 'political correctness' isn't an ideology, its a term that means avoiding offensive language...in my opinion its not very evil in itself. Also just as much as one can make a point to be offensive or unpleasant to express free speech, people can also make a point to be more civil when interacting with people and still be expressing free speech. The choice of course is up to the individual...granted the former might come with some less great consequences. Basically I see no reason to go out of my way to be offensive because to me 'being offensive doesn't=I can freedom of speech better then u' but I am not going to walk on egg shells either.
Also I don't think you can soley blame the issue on 'this generation' what about those who raised this generation, you don't think they've had any part in creating the crowd who supports censorship and what not?
It most definitely is an ideology, there are very few PC ideologues but many many useful idiots that cast fear over the entire culture. You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
Ok maybe there are ideologies that have branched from the term...but political correctness itself just means avoiding offensive language, its not even very concrete since it would largely be based on what you think entails offensive speech. I've looked it up multiple times and that is the persistent definition....no 'its an ideology that suggests'...if there are people making an ideology out of it I don't know a lot about that but it sounds like people with way too much time on their hands.
you are exactly right. This is not what PC started as but its what it's become. And they do have too much time. Let me know what you think when you have time to check into all this. It will blow your mind. You can PMe if you'd rather not stir it up again here once you had a chance to look. It's crazy and its happening and its spreading like wildfire through colleges. Look at specifics and not at general statements and you'll see.
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25 Feb 2016, 4:15 pm
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25 Feb 2016, 4:19 pm
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What was the implication by posting that wikipedia article then? Don't try to play dumb now. You have NO argument, you've been attacking people from your very first post in this thread. You are embarrassing yourself.
you're reading into it too far. I was pointing out that the whole concept of cultural marxism is descended from cultural bolshevism. you're right about the attack part though, I love to attack specious arguments.Oh am I? Maybe I could give you the benefit of the doubt if you hadn't made similar accusations multiple times before to me and other posters as well. That is the generic counterargument to pretty much everything by the left.
I don't think you love to attack arguments since you do such a poor job at even framing your opinion, I think you're a masochist.
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because that's not what your are actually advocating for and your terrible example if you think you are 'being nice to people' different then you. I guess that doesn't extend to those that disagree with you opinions?
There's a reason why we have 11+ illegal aliens in this country, there is a reason why the Middle East is in complete chaos, there's a reason why Europe is ripping apart at the seams, we're going bankrupt. We're not allowed to talk about the real issues or the solutions to them, we are stuck fighting over culturally insignificant garbage that fits with in their narrative. Not any more.
it is actually what i'm advocating for. those who bellow the loudest about being inconvenienced by 'pc BS' are usually trying to handwave away being a dick and not giving a sh*t about same.There's a reason why we have 11+ illegal aliens in this country, there is a reason why the Middle East is in complete chaos, there's a reason why Europe is ripping apart at the seams, we're going bankrupt. We're not allowed to talk about the real issues or the solutions to them, we are stuck fighting over culturally insignificant garbage that fits with in their narrative. Not any more.
Like I said, there are real issues in this world that this PC garbage is now effecting our ability to address. Nobody cares about some dildo whining about some irrelevant thing that "triggered" their sensibilities, that isn't what your movement is all about. Useful idiot.
you certainly have a lot to say on a subject you profess to not care about, don't you?
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25 Feb 2016, 4:34 pm
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
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because that's not what your are actually advocating for and your terrible example if you think you are 'being nice to people' different then you. I guess that doesn't extend to those that disagree with you opinions?
There's a reason why we have 11+ illegal aliens in this country, there is a reason why the Middle East is in complete chaos, there's a reason why Europe is ripping apart at the seams, we're going bankrupt. We're not allowed to talk about the real issues or the solutions to them, we are stuck fighting over culturally insignificant garbage that fits with in their narrative. Not any more.
it is actually what i'm advocating for. those who bellow the loudest about being inconvenienced by 'pc BS' are usually trying to handwave away being a dick and not giving a sh*t about same.There's a reason why we have 11+ illegal aliens in this country, there is a reason why the Middle East is in complete chaos, there's a reason why Europe is ripping apart at the seams, we're going bankrupt. We're not allowed to talk about the real issues or the solutions to them, we are stuck fighting over culturally insignificant garbage that fits with in their narrative. Not any more.
Like I said, there are real issues in this world that this PC garbage is now effecting our ability to address. Nobody cares about some dildo whining about some irrelevant thing that "triggered" their sensibilities, that isn't what your movement is all about. Useful idiot.
you certainly have a lot to say on a subject you profess to not care about, don't you?
Huh? I've literally said that political correctness is suffocating western civilization and is suicidal, I think that implies I care a great deal so I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this. I've been on point, you've been desperately trying to poke holes in my argument without making one of your own and failing bad at it. It's really funny, why are you doing to this to yourself? Like do you want me to give you an out here or something?
I like to discuss things civilly in an intellectual manner, I've had many great back and fourths with people here on a whole host of subjects but when somebody wants to fling mud and insult me I have no issue counter punching. I like a lot posters that describe themselves as on the left here, I don't have issues with discussing things with most people. Every once in a while we get a live one, they typically don't stick around.
