Is our cultural origin story just a reset?

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I remember a lecture I caught on Youtube by Klaus Doner where he was talking about a showcase of Egyptian-like artifacts that were claimed to have been found around South America. The trouble seemed to be that the South American origin of all these items was asserted by their collectors and I can't remember how he justified with any certainty that they weren't simply lying to the buyers.

A few articles that do stir the isht-pot back in the other direction:

Some naughty mummies with traces of American drugs in their systems:
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/ethnic/mummy.htm

Japanese and Ecuadorian pottery:
http://apps.ohiohistory.org/ohioarchaeo ... years-ago/


The silk road between Asia and the middle-east might explain a great deal about similarities in philosophy between India and China vs. Greece and Egypt. I remember listening to one of Mark Stavish's lectures dealing with philosophic commerce along this corridor, Indian and Greco-Egyptian alchemy were almost identical (the three gunas and salt/sulfur/mercury being one of the quicker illustrations) and a Tibetan tradition was making use of a very Greek/platonic zodiac. Also a few notable Greek philosophers including Pythagoras and Democritus were said to have made their rounds to both Egypt and India in their search for education in the mysteries. The possibility of trans-oceanic commerce with the Americas is a lot more tantalizing though, partly because it does suggest a need for major revision of how we look at trade and connectedness from those times and just how long the Americas were a known item - at least if these theories and scraps of data turn out to be accurate.

According to Plato a greek by the name of Solon had conversations with an Egyptian priest who knew a lot more history than he did.

He told Solon that Greek civilization had no real history, they were like children compared to the historical records that the Egyptians had.
That mankind had been almost wiped out several times due to different causes fire,cold or water usually.

He said that the Egyptians were a rare people who had managed to keep knowledge and historical records from one deluge to another.


There was a series of sci-fi books written about a space empire that was declining and losing knowledge, descending into savagery and war. It was called foundation.
The foundation is there to preserve knowledge and civilization so that after the decline of the empire is complete, civilization can be restored as quickly as possible.
This could be happening to us on earth, after every catastrophic environmental destruction some people come out of an underground base and build cities near to primitive hunter gatherer people.

It seems that Plato knew about America because he calls if the 'opposite continent' here:
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html

Issac Asimov's "Foundation Trilogy"^.

Thats the novel you're talking about.

Dont know what to make of that phrase "the opposite continent".

It does sound like Plato is saying that Atlantis was a big landmass that was part of a stepping stone string of islands across the ocean to a continent on the opposite shore of the Atlantic from Europe. And he seems to take it for granted that the reader knows of that "opposite continent".

The Greeks knew the full circumference of the earth. It's possible they thought an "opposite" continent was inevitable.

Yeah here's where a few thousand people are allowed to hang out while there are environmental catastrophes happening:
Http://www.messagetoeagle.com/11-myster ... -this-day/

It's a passion of mine to read about the ancient Greeks, from there I've gone further back and I can't help but feel we are a rather new species to this planet, or rather a new branch of the great ape.
Egypt has a really interesting history, the fertile Nile valley has sustained many different people, and is clearly an excellent spot for anyone to flourish.
I don't buy any of the god stuff, it's just silly, or ancient technologically advanced ancestors , no evidence.
Our story does not need magic,gods or superhumans, it's pretty damn interesting without those things.

It is a mixed bag. Tobacco an Cocaine found in Egypt, Jade in the long barrows, and Europe had no large source for all the copper used in the Bronze Age. It most likely came from the huge deposits mined at the right time by the Great Lakes.

On the other hand, Maize and Potatoes were more valuable and easy to ship, and a few pigs brought to the new world could produce wealth. Chickens are great. Wheat, Barley, Rye, took a while to reach the new world.

This exchange seems to have happened fully with China. Metals, pottery, weaving, the grains and domestic animals.

Genetics show genes shared by Norwegians and the Sioux and Ojibwa near the Great Lakes, from 10,000 years ago. In Wales there are a lot of Native American genes, right where all the Tin for the bronze came from.

Back to Plato, only the Atlantians knew the secret of Oracalleum which combined Greek words for gold and copper, golden copper, Brass.

There is evidence of a vast trade network, Europe, North Africa, north to Baltic Amber, White Sea Seal Oil. The Syrian coast was one huge Olive Grove. Dried fish, rock salt from Salsburg, Flint from France, reached all of the rivers and sled trails to the East. Sea shells from the coast are found a thousand miles inland.

This culture was from 35,000 years ago. They did 3-d figure modeling in clay, they had seven weaves of cloth, including Herringbone Tweed. They had sleds, lived in tents, migrated but gathered in large numbers for fish runs and drying tons. According to Richard Rudgley and Colin Renfrew they had the basics of a writing system.

It has been documented enough to get a name, 35,000 to 10,000 is called, The Age of the Great Mother.

It is a flowering of the culture that appeared 38,000-40,000 years ago called The Human Explosion.

Before that all apes seem naked, dirty, and useless.

Here's a weird one - a 44,000 year old poison arrow:
http://www.livescience.com/21961-oldest ... umans.html