People first, God second. Should people put themselves above

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That also does not work as they offer a way to know what God does want and it is to follow ourselves and not some other.


Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

As a brethren to Jesus, I have him and the Father inside of myself and have no need for anyone else.

My God wants me to do as I say over whatever others say, unless I agree of course.

Campbell would call that growing up mentally and spiritually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU

Regards
DL

First off, if my god was pagan gods, does this mean I can put my gods before yours? Or even that of my gods before people? And if so, does this mean I can place my gods before your people as well? Or is this solely a Cristian thing where their god is the only right one and every one else's wrong?

Secondly: If god was all knowing and seeing and powerful and everything issued forth from god, wouldn't that mean everything is a part of god and that god IS everything? and anything created or existing within the universe is just an extension of said god?, and if so, wouldn't that mean were part god too? and if thats the case, then wouldn't we be a part of gods body and mind too? and if this be the case, then wouldn't god be not an individual within the universe but IS the universe its self? That being said, then isn't it possible that as we or god evolve's we and or god evolves too?, one a reflection of the other's evolution?

And lastly, Perhaps god is nothing but projections of our imaginations, our fears and hopes, our trying to make reason of things thats we can not comprehend or cope with? our fears of death and the unknowns? loss of loved ones we want to believe we will see again? feeling of inadequacy and inabilities to control our own world or fates and existences? the desire for justice and reason in a seemingly chaotic world full of madness as we evolve out of our primordial soup of life? Is god nothing but a projection of our selves? a mental illness?

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God's will not mine.

For it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. Philippians 2:1

Quoting a man made scripture is not quoting god, its a loop that humans also said the word of god is within to create its dogma as an excuse, its escapism. its a way of saying we are god because we have created with our words this book we proclaim is gods words.

The OP does not distinguish which religion or lack of.

I can only share my experiences.

Well lets say, if my pagan bible disagreed with yours, does that make your's or mine more wrong or more right? for surly if all we get on this thread is people quoting Cristian or related dogmatic scriptures thats the same as proclaiming all others religions false and as such makes this whole question and thread presented by the OP redundant and false, for the question would be more about if the "Cristian god" and its scriptures should be put before all people, or if all people should be put before the religious bias so they may believe as they choose.

You can share your side and experiences.

Israelites came and went from idolatry.

Hay, I am an Atheist, I was raised in a family full of ministers, and they tried to force it all down me to make me the next minister in a long line of them, but that was their mistake, for I ended up studying several religions as well past those mentioned in the bible, and in the end made my own choice of Atheist. But I sure can hold my own argument and debates on the mater, in fact I think its fun (when in the mood).

But all in all I do not hold religion against others as long as they do not push it upon others, hell my last girlfriend was a practicing pagan witch.. if anything I found her antics quite entertaining,

If God chooses to die then he would stay dead.

The following 5 quotes are why I call what God did murder, if he actually needs a blood sacrifice. As you can see, a sacrifice was not required.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Ezekiel 18:20 (ESV) The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

The declaration which says that God visits the sins of the fathers upon the children is contrary to every principle of moral justice. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

As you can see, especially those last two quotes, all are saved without a sacrifice.

Let me add.

Psa 49 7
None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

Common decency and morality, something you are ignoring for your get out of hell free card, is what this Bishop is talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKNup9g ... gest-vrecs

Regards
DL[/quote]

If God doesn't want to stay dead, then he won't. Especially if the salvation of humanity rests on his returning to life.

That which is not real cannot die, except in the minds and hearts of men.

In my youth I was self centered.

Now I am at least second. (or 3rd, or 4th)

Me ... Still too old to know it all
... and tired after playing music for 4 hours. (Blues to yodeling to 60's rock to gospel to country to folk to ....

Before we put God's needs first we should ask, what could God possibly need from us?

Good question.

I hope you come up with an answer. Mine includes reading 66 books.
In the past it include reading books on Zen Budhism.

It is not the same for everyone.

I have heard of
Ordained plumbers. ...
Finding a use for you & then purpose is great.

The great plumber who helped us on Thursday used to be a teacher.

When I was young I was fascinated with math. (Including calculus & analytic geometry. )
Thought about teaching it.
Though math occupies a box on my brain, my career took a different path.

If there be a god, then the first question should be what IS god, then ask what needs such a being may have of us.

The first answer I came up with, is companionship.

The second is personal growth (if we are a part of god (if all things came from god then we are), then for god to grow and evolve as a whole then so must we. also, if god was to love and care for its self, we as a part of god must learn to do the same as well, for and with each other as well as our selves, same as god does for us. like living cells in a larger body, connected to a whole yet individual.).

So OP's answer is both yet neither, yet one in the same. for we all need each other to survive as a part of that body and can not survive vary well separated and alone. while yet striving to continue to grow reproduce and remain healthy our selves.

Maybe God is hoping some of its sentient creations will develop some really advanced system of psychotherapy that will help it deal with its issues?

Maybe it wants companionship and entertainment.

Maybe it understands the impulse behind the Sims.

My finite self even with knowledge cannot comprehend the total nature of God.

Many including myself have tried to understand and label God through computers, psychology.
In my younger days I was so off to label with things like codependency.

In is an interesting reading others current views.
Some may be using humor. Unfortunately I don't always hear or read it correctly.