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15 Oct 2016, 8:31 pm

adifferetname, I think I see where our disconnect is happening. You think debate is about petty jibes and one-upmanship. Your claim to care about ideas is belied by your competitiveness.

Also, I have noticed that a lot of the male posters here seem to think they are speaking from a point of superiority, as if they are an expert. It's annoying.

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15 Oct 2016, 8:41 pm

adifferentname wrote:

If you're aware such statements qualify as opinions, perhaps you shouldn't be advising other people not to share theirs.

Share anything you desire, but people react differently to different things, and a calmer discussion doesn't normally include the word 'useless' (unless it's non-functional technology perhaps).

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15 Oct 2016, 9:39 pm

Mootoo wrote:

adifferentname wrote:

If you're aware such statements qualify as opinions, perhaps you shouldn't be advising other people not to share theirs.

Share anything you desire, but people react differently to different things, and a calmer discussion doesn't normally include the word 'useless' (unless it's non-functional technology perhaps).

You appear to be confused. I don't require affirmation.

The calmness of a discussion carried out solely in text is entirely subjective and independent of the actual emotional state of the person posting. It's interesting how often people fail to understand this point and seem to attempt to project the feelings that words inspire in their own minds onto the minds of others. Likewise, what is typical of a "calmer" discussion, is dependent entirely on the individual.

Your arbitrary rule regarding suitable terms within the parameters of your subjective opinion of what constitutes a "calmer discussion" is noted. You may be assured that I will completely disregard this rule, along with any hypothetical tender sensibilities of my fellow posters, in all of my future posts. Also noted is the fact that you used the word "useless" in your own post. Does its presence within the body of your message mean that you are not calm?

In short, I find your advice in this matter to be without value or merit. That is to say, it is useless.

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15 Oct 2016, 9:59 pm

Women are my fellow humans first and foremost and I see them as such, they have a different form than me which is intriguing and I do note and appreciate that but they are as equal and potent and valuable as myself in all matters and I treat each woman or girl as a human being before all else, whatever that means... I think all women are beautiful and powerful creatures just as how I consider guys, gals fascinate me a lot more than dudes and I can't help that I am allured by women and my thoughts can be more exotically tinted when I feel a deeper connection with a human that is a girl, in the past I have taken such a concept of respect very seriously, probably way too much, it is important to me that a woman believes that you respect them whatever your relationship may be, through time and action.

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16 Oct 2016, 3:38 am

adifferentname wrote:

t's interesting how often people fail to understand this point and seem to attempt to project the feelings that words inspire in their own minds onto the minds of others.

I forgot to mention gaslighting ^.

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Your right to autonomy and freedom of choice was bought and paid for with the blood of millions upon millions of men who were often legally obligated to unquestioningly obey people who were deemed their betters by accident of birth.

If you choose to answer, are you saying that women's right to autonomy and freedom of choice were bought and paid for with the blood of men alone?

If so, I have to disagree. Men and women both brought us to where we are.

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16 Oct 2016, 5:47 am

androbot01 wrote:

adifferentname wrote:

t's interesting how often people fail to understand this point and seem to attempt to project the feelings that words inspire in their own minds onto the minds of others.

I forgot to mention gaslighting ^.

Now you're accusing me of a engaging in a form of abuse which would require I have enough control over your psyche to convince you that you are less than sane. You've also taken this quote out of the context by divorcing it from the framework of text-only conversations, in a weak bid to support your unfounded accusation.

As this constitutes your third personal attack in as many responses to myself, I see little value in asking you, yet again, to abide by the site rules, and shall instead refer the matter to the mods.

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If you choose to answer, are you saying that women's right to autonomy and freedom of choice were bought and paid for with the blood of men alone?

No. You're saying that. This is a strawman.

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If so, I have to disagree. Men and women both brought us to where we are.

Of course you disagree. That's the purpose of a strawman.

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16 Oct 2016, 5:53 am

adifferentname wrote:

androbot01 wrote:

adifferentname wrote:

If you choose to answer, are you saying that women's right to autonomy and freedom of choice were bought and paid for with the blood of men alone?

No. You're saying that.

So what are you saying then?

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16 Oct 2016, 6:04 am

I totally remember all those times women were on the front lines fighting the British.

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16 Oct 2016, 6:05 am

androbot01 wrote:

adifferentname wrote:

androbot01 wrote:

adifferentname wrote:

If you choose to answer, are you saying that women's right to autonomy and freedom of choice were bought and paid for with the blood of men alone?

No. You're saying that.

So what are you saying then?

You quoted the text. If you missed the context, go back and read the thread.

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16 Oct 2016, 6:06 am

Boxman108 wrote:

I totally remember all those times women were on the front lines fighting the British.

And this brought us all autonomy and freedom?

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16 Oct 2016, 6:09 am

androbot01 wrote:

Boxman108 wrote:

I totally remember all those times women were on the front lines fighting the British.

And this brought us all autonomy and freedom?

Are you saying that all the efforts of the men who fought were meaningless? I mean it is implied, must be what you meant.

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16 Oct 2016, 6:15 am

Boxman108 wrote:

androbot01 wrote:

Boxman108 wrote:

I totally remember all those times women were on the front lines fighting the British.

And this brought us all autonomy and freedom?

Are you saying that all the efforts of the men who fought were meaningless? I mean it is implied, must be what you meant.

Men (and women) have fought in the past for various things, some right and some wrong. But to say that freedom and autonomy are something that have been gained solely by men is ridiculous. There have been many factors that have brought us to where we are today. And today is not perfect. We can't know how the world would have been if there had not been so much fighting. That autonomy and freedom still today aren't a given is saddening. They shouldn't have to be fought for.

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16 Oct 2016, 6:47 am

adifferentname wrote:

You quoted the text. If you missed the context, go back and read the thread.

I caught the context.

I think maybe some men are frustrated because they feel that the terms of the "man/woman social contract" have been broken. And they have been broken. A system of male dominance has been in place for thousands of years; only in the last few hundred have changes taken place which enable women to take care of themselves even though they are physically weaker. This has effected the normalcy of the family unit. Lots of changes for men, women and children. I'm not sure anyone really knows what the roles are anymore and that could be a good thing. But the days of the white knight are over.

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16 Oct 2016, 9:00 am

Male dominance is a world where men suffer the most losses in war as well as are treated as guilty until proven innocent in court? So what changes are being made to end those things? Certainly not draft dodging feminists.

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16 Oct 2016, 9:25 am

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Everybody suffers.

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16 Oct 2016, 9:30 am

Then everyone is equal.

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