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22 Jan 2017, 5:01 am

The only people acting like Nazis are the media and their puppets rioting.


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22 Jan 2017, 5:26 am

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We most certainly were not socialist! "The pursuit of happiness" is not about state redistribution of wealth.

So you think money is what will make you happy?



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22 Jan 2017, 6:07 am

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Oh my god, people of this thread, listen to yourselves! You're basically falling into the same group polarization mistakes as many in history have done. I swear, if I didn't have homework that I should really be doing instead of trying to change an interne echo chamber, I'd swap out a few words in each post, it'd probably sound exactly like conversations between Dems and GOPers in the 1968 protests, or in the lead-up to the Italian years of lead, or between ex-Nazi Germans and the Red Army Faction.


Well right but... Trump really is Hitler and he really has come to ban gay rights, women's rights to their own bodies, medical marijuana, make us a Dominionist Christian nation, and he'll be resurrecting apartheid, overturning the constitution, and instituting the Code of Hammurabi some time around the middle of next week.

Check your privilege!

:lol: :jester:

LOL! :lol:

Joking aside I'm pretty sure he said he would leave a lot of the things people fear he would overturn or ban up to the states. So....why aren't people rallying to their local politicians?


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22 Jan 2017, 6:57 am

Diabolikal wrote:
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don't hate Trump,I don't like his policies and what he says.

For the ones openly crying, rioting, and acting like spoiled children it's not so much hate but amusement, pity, and disgust. It actually could be a good thing from a non-progressive standpoint since the left that are acting that way are sowing the seeds of thier own destruction. Unless Trump really screws the pooch in his first term, he'll nearly be guaranteed a second term.


I'd like to see evidence to back up your statement, or is it being pulled out of thin air? And by the way, a simple question of curiosity, would you be happy if "the left" were all eradicated form the planet? Like beaten down by police, or listening to you so often that they change their minds and follow you? Yes or no?

Eradicated? No, all this over the top protesting and crying is providing me with too much entertainment. I hope it gets worse.
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22 Jan 2017, 7:03 am

Diabolikal wrote:
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don't hate Trump,I don't like his policies and what he says.

For the ones openly crying, rioting, and acting like spoiled children it's not so much hate but amusement, pity, and disgust. It actually could be a good thing from a non-progressive standpoint since the left that are acting that way are sowing the seeds of thier own destruction. Unless Trump really screws the pooch in his first term, he'll nearly be guaranteed a second term.


I'd like to see evidence to back up your statement, or is it being pulled out of thin air? And by the way, a simple question of curiosity, would you be happy if "the left" were all eradicated form the planet? Like beaten down by police, or listening to you so often that they change their minds and follow you? Yes or no?


Is this the 2017 version of "when did you stop beating your wife?".



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22 Jan 2017, 7:57 am

Diabolikal wrote:
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don't hate Trump,I don't like his policies and what he says.

For the ones openly crying, rioting, and acting like spoiled children it's not so much hate but amusement, pity, and disgust. It actually could be a good thing from a non-progressive standpoint since the left that are acting that way are sowing the seeds of thier own destruction. Unless Trump really screws the pooch in his first term, he'll nearly be guaranteed a second term.


I'd like to see evidence to back up your statement, or is it being pulled out of thin air? And by the way, a simple question of curiosity, would you be happy if "the left" were all eradicated form the planet? Like beaten down by police, or listening to you so often that they change their minds and follow you? Yes or no?


Since when did prognosticating require evidence? And personally I think younger generations, like the one I belong to, aren't going to be as inclined to let themselves be influenced by the leftists movement after what we've seen lately.



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22 Jan 2017, 9:30 am

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Please, can people in the world stop bashing Trump so excessively? It's starting to burn too much. I did think that he is kind of an embarrassment. He may have done or said things which mocked the disabled and every other "minority" group. But I'm pretty sure the progressives and liberals have the same issues.

And I think disagreement or even hate =/= killing an entire group of people. A lot of the anti-Trump people are actually behaving way more sick and deranged than the people who voted for him are.


I call false equivalence. Hatred of Trump comes from the fear inspired by taking his own public statements at face value. Hatred of Obama was based on suspicions which never had a basis in similarly indisputable evidence.


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22 Jan 2017, 9:39 am

EzraS wrote:
Diabolikal wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
don't hate Trump,I don't like his policies and what he says.

For the ones openly crying, rioting, and acting like spoiled children it's not so much hate but amusement, pity, and disgust. It actually could be a good thing from a non-progressive standpoint since the left that are acting that way are sowing the seeds of thier own destruction. Unless Trump really screws the pooch in his first term, he'll nearly be guaranteed a second term.


I'd like to see evidence to back up your statement, or is it being pulled out of thin air? And by the way, a simple question of curiosity, would you be happy if "the left" were all eradicated form the planet? Like beaten down by police, or listening to you so often that they change their minds and follow you? Yes or no?


Since when did prognosticating require evidence? And personally I think younger generations, like the one I belong to, aren't going to be as inclined to let themselves be influenced by the leftists movement after what we've seen lately.


Yeah, the extremism from liberals has pushed my views farther and farther to the right. I didn't really care about gun control until my peers started insulting gun owners, calling them crazed hillbillies. Most of my family own guns, so that was a below-the-belt hit.



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22 Jan 2017, 9:47 am

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Yeah, the extremism from liberals has pushed my views farther and farther to the right. I didn't really care about gun control until my peers started insulting gun owners, calling them crazed hillbillies. Most of my family own guns, so that was a below-the-belt hit.

So, hurt feelings justify limiting civil rights to people who won't criticize your family?


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22 Jan 2017, 9:50 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
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Yeah, the extremism from liberals has pushed my views farther and farther to the right. I didn't really care about gun control until my peers started insulting gun owners, calling them crazed hillbillies. Most of my family own guns, so that was a below-the-belt hit.

So, hurt feelings justify limiting civil rights to people who won't criticize your family?

So, are you saying gun ownership violates civil rights? I just wonder what you were on to there.



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22 Jan 2017, 10:00 am

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rats_and_cats wrote:
Yeah, the extremism from liberals has pushed my views farther and farther to the right. I didn't really care about gun control until my peers started insulting gun owners, calling them crazed hillbillies. Most of my family own guns, so that was a below-the-belt hit.

So, hurt feelings justify limiting civil rights to people who won't criticize your family?

So, are you saying gun ownership violates civil rights? I just wonder what you were on to there.

Please scroll up and address the false equivalence I mentioned in your original post.
Unrestricted gun ownership violates people's right to life and liberty and property. People who oppose sensible regulations are in the minority. They can't even grasp the plain meaning of the second amendment, and dismiss all technological advances since that time as irrelevant. More false equivalence, actually.

Edit: the more I think about it, a perspective which would require everyone to walk around heavily-armed in order to preserve a right which most people don't feel any desire to exercise anyway, is, in fact, completely crazy. If most people did want to walk around ready to shoot to kill, I could see taking the most extreme interpretation, but that only describes people in a hypothetical. A crazy hypothetical.


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22 Jan 2017, 10:09 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
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Yeah, the extremism from liberals has pushed my views farther and farther to the right. I didn't really care about gun control until my peers started insulting gun owners, calling them crazed hillbillies. Most of my family own guns, so that was a below-the-belt hit.

So, hurt feelings justify limiting civil rights to people who won't criticize your family?


So, hurt feelings and loss of civil rights are the same thing? In 2017, everybody in America can vote, everybody in America has equal employment opportunities, everybody in America can get a driver's license unless there's a medical reason they can't, everybody in America can marry (within reason), everybody in America has access to free public education (the quality of which is debatable but there are things being done to change that). I don't want to limit any of that for anyone. And if you would actually listen to what Trump is saying, he doesn't want to either.



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22 Jan 2017, 10:18 am

Hurt feelings are exactly why some of these liberals are reaping havoc on the political spectrum. So it's rich to poke fun at centrists for having "hurt feelings" about the people protesting like kids over hurt feelings.


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22 Jan 2017, 10:19 am

rats_and_cats wrote:
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Yeah, the extremism from liberals has pushed my views farther and farther to the right. I didn't really care about gun control until my peers started insulting gun owners, calling them crazed hillbillies. Most of my family own guns, so that was a below-the-belt hit.

So, hurt feelings justify limiting civil rights to people who won't criticize your family?


So, hurt feelings and loss of civil rights are the same thing? In 2017, everybody in America can vote, everybody in America has equal employment opportunities, everybody in America can get a driver's license unless there's a medical reason they can't, everybody in America can marry (within reason), everybody in America has access to free public education (the quality of which is debatable but there are things being done to change that). I don't want to limit any of that for anyone. And if you would actually listen to what Trump is saying, he doesn't want to either.


Trump has no functional relationship with the truth, but that doesn't make what he says meaningless. He courts people who openly want to limit the civil rights of my friends. He uses their exact language, too often to be plausibly coincidental. I suspect you disregard the Southern Poverty Law Center, or at least haven't read their analysis. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of Trump voters feel that way. I know this because they say SPLC is racist when I ask them about it.

I'm saying that Trump voters got in bed with a guy who has racists in bed with him on the other side, and didn't notice or didn't care. Your hurt feelings are directly giving him power to restrict civil rights, but at least you can be sure that your family will keep their civil rights, since they are obviously Real Americans.


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22 Jan 2017, 10:20 am

rats_and_cats wrote:

So, hurt feelings and loss of civil rights are the same thing? In 2017, everybody in America can vote, everybody in America has equal employment opportunities, everybody in America can get a driver's license unless there's a medical reason they can't, everybody in America can marry (within reason), everybody in America has access to free public education (the quality of which is debatable but there are things being done to change that). I don't want to limit any of that for anyone. And if you would actually listen to what Trump is saying, he doesn't want to either.

But you have elected a man who is very likely to change many of those things, and you are believing a person who lies all the time and taking what he says seriously.



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22 Jan 2017, 10:21 am

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Hurt feelings are exactly why some of these liberals are reaping havoc on the political spectrum. So it's rich to poke fun at centrists for having "hurt feelings" about the people protesting like kids over hurt feelings.

Wrong. We're pissed that he mocked the disabled reporter, and flabbergasted at the denials, but the protests respond directly to the stated positions of Trump and his cabinet nominees. Public statements, on the record, not fake news and speculation. Yeah, we ignore the "clarifications" issued by his stooges. Obviously.


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