What is it about guns?

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So if I’m in a mall and a person is shooting up people and I shoot him before he gets to me didn’t I stop him from shooting me? If I pull my gun before a mugger pulls his and stop him didn’t I stop him from shooting me. Most all from is people ruining up to you guns a blazing they conceal it til the last min, another example I’m in a dinner a guy comes in to rob the place when he turns away I shoot him. Again I stopped him from shooting or or others. No having a gun isn’t a guarantee that you won’t gwt shot or thst your stop the bad guy, but not having a gun pretty much guarantees you won’t stop them. Just like having a fire extinguisher doesn’t mesn yiu be able to start a fire, but if s fire starts you’re going be dam glad you have one.

Who else?

why was George Harrison denied permission to obtain a shotgun after he was robbed and beaten within an inch of his life?

Please look up violent death per 1,000and then look up violent crimes and compare. Sorry if my loved one was stabbed to death tommorr I wouldn’t be like “ well thank god they weren’t shot to death thst could be worse” death is death. And higher violent crime is bad. 10,000 people a year out of 320,000,000. Is less then half of 1% it’s so minor. Compare thst to heart attacks, knifes, cars, swimming pools, medical mal practice, smoking, cancer, etc. guns aren’t even in the top ten causes of death

Heart disease: 633,842
• Cancer: 595,930
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 155,041
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 146,571
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 140,323
• Alzheimer’s disease: 110,561
• Diabetes: 79,535
• Influenza and pneumonia: 57,062
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 49,959
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,193

I think us should include it’s territories
Anguilla: 27.66
British Virgin Islands:8.37
Cayman Islands:14.74
Montserrat:20.39
Bermuda:6.45

On to Europe
Russia:11.31
Lithuania:5.98
Ukraine:4.36
France 1.58
Belgium 1.95
Germany: 0.85
Quite a few European nations have similar or higher murder rates as the USA.

Violent crimes are hard to compare due to things we deem violent crimes uk doesn’t.
Likewise some countries say a mass shooting is 9 or more for example, USA defines it as 4 or more.anit gun people define it as 0 or more(wish I was joking)

Again I fount think the people killed or their families are much happy they weren’t killed by a gun but something else instead. I know I wouldn’t be. Doubt the victims fsmikys from nice France are like well it’s ok they weren’t shot. Dead is dead, death is bad regardless of how it’s done. We’d stilk have the murder rate we do if we banned and collected all guns in th USA. The USA is just more violent.then us or France we have entirely different demographics then you all. We also have a Bunche of cartel run dug making countries right below us who smuggle drugs up and fight with each other here, unlike yiu all. Imagine if uka had Afghanistan right on its border instead of ocean. Bet your murder rates would go up.

I thought this thread was about curiosity but now I see it’s about pushing gun control. Sad. I’d hope you were legitimately trying to explore and understand gun owners.
If you’d like to get back to thst I’m here,

The state and most people don't consider personal protection a good enough reason in Great Britain (Northern Ireland is different).

i'm not a fan of guns, but that sounds bad. George Harrison wanting to keep himself from getting picked off is not a good enough reason to him to be allowed to arm himself? then what is?

You can't arm yourself with anything explicitly or predominantly for protection here. You can only carry such articles with a Reasonable Excuse™. Offensive weapons are banned under the Prevention of Crime Act 1953. See here.

I don't believe anyone else can.

I hate guns btw. I wish even farmers could not have them.

Farmers' mums?

That's classic nanny state for ya. You get more free stuff but they'll f**k you on the important stuff like defending your life.
No thanks!

Welfare and gun control are two completely separate issues. There are plenty of people who support welfare but oppose gun control. Orthodox Marxists for example.

You are also conveniently ignoring all the people who have died because they couldn't afford healthcare. That sort of thing kills more people than gun violence does.

Isn't it funny? Raptor doesn't care about the people who die because of global warming, military imperialism and hyper-capitalism, but he is concerned about a few people who may have been killed by gun control.

Your crocodile tears make you look like a fool.

That dreadful Raptor strikes again!
Whatever shall we do?!?!?




But....as long as Raptor's posts get you all wrapped around the axle (as evidenced by your replies) and your replies merely amuse Raptor then who's the fool, eh?

Everyone's a quick draw.

If you have to envisage us getting run over to amuse yourself that's a poor defence of your gun rights.

You're taking your rights for granted. I'm not aware of any law saying we can't amend or strike amendments from the constitution.

What part about anything I said had to do with quick draw? Do you need to be fast to pull your gun and shoot someone who’s face ing away from you threatening others? Do you need to draw quick while at a mall and someone starts shooting next few stores over ?
Do you need to draw quick if you’ve nocited a guy wearing a black hoodie has been following your alone for quite a while gaining ground on you?

Nope no you don’t. It also doesn’t take very long to pull my gun. You seem to thlike no every single possible situation is 1/2 foot close with the guy already having his gun on you but most aren’t. You’ll have plenty of time to take cover pull your gun and give warnings to the bad guy.

Watch some self defense videos. They train to practice for many possible situations of which your imagined one is just one of many.
I practice to draw in a way that works for both close destance and if they further away

Here’s another example a guys knocked you down and is wailing on your. I’d try holding him back with one arm while pulling my other. I’m not match for most people so they’d beat me to death otherwise.