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Seems to have gotten considerably worse since the election. Yep, that election where Trump won and suddenly they found themselves facing 4-8 years with a president that even a year (or more) before Nov. 2016 they were having anxiety attacks over.

I clearly see panic and desperation driving the post-election over-sensitivity and trollery.

LOL, we can't say who he is since that would be an "attack", but I think most of us know...
The double standard has always been and will continue to be because, given the political and philosophical makeup of WP, it can never be any other way. It has gotten worse, though, due in no small part to political changes in the past year and some.

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I just snickered when i tried to log on at work and got the "banned" notice. I had plenty enough other things on my plate to lose any sleep over it. I knew it was coming but do not know what the proverbial straw was that broke the proverbial camel's back. I knew it was coming due to the more recent hypersensitivity of the left, not that I've been any naughtier than before.

"Belittling and attacking" are not valid charges if not referenced to a specific post.
As a witty WP conservaive leaning libertarian, just about any of my posts in some of the more edgy current events or PPR threads could be considered to be belittling, attacking, trolling, dog whistling, racist, Islamophobic, homophobic, arachnophobic, acrophobic, or whatever else if they run afoul of some peoples beliefs.

Admittedly, some of my TOS's have been well deserved, but this is reflecting on all of them over an 11 year span. I was at my most here ornery in 2011-12 but received fewer TOS's then than I have in the most recent two years, AND the ones I got back then were reference to a specific thread.

All that aside, as I told another non-progressive WP'er last year at the height of Trump Rage, we should relish and cherish these more recent times, for we are witnessing the golden age of progressive butthurt and we may never witness such a spectacle again. Remember them well so that the memory of these golden times may be passed on to our grandchildren and great grandchildren whilst gathered around the crackling hearth on cold winter nights.

Agreed.

It's one of the reasons I've elected to remain in the SE U.S., and not return to the NE.

No, Ima have to disagree with you. This is NOTHING like it was under Ronaldus Magnus. That was a great time to be a little kid. I didn't fully appreciate it at the time, but yet...defo got some "good ol' days" stories!

I dunno...whadya think, Raptor? Is this what it might have been like if Goldwater had won? They destroyed Goldwater in the election. They destroyed Nixon in office. Ronaldus Magnus ROLLED 'em. And KEPT on rollin' em. I'd love to see something a few orders of magnitude greater than the air controller strike of 1981 heaped on the heads of sanctuary cities and states, maybe even martial law along the southern border of California.

Maybe while we're at it, we can break up Texas and California. My understanding is the majority of California is more than annoyed with out-of-touch pols in Sacramento, but perhaps it's too early to talk about that just yet.

Nobody destroyed Nixon while in office, other than Nixon himself. And Goldwater had opened himself up to attacks that eventually brought him down.
As for your Ronald the Great - - the far right today are in love with a figment of their imagination that they've dubbed Reagan, not the real man. Reagan in fact worked with House Democrats all the time, was even personal friends with Tip O'Neill, and hardly resembled this figment of the right's imagination in that he was in comparison nowhere as extreme as they are.

Oh please...the left had been after Goldwater and even Nixon from day one. Woodward set a whole new bar for so-called journalists that made bringing down major politicians the pinnacle of any journalist’s career. When you consider that leftist media have consistently looked the other way every single time pols did WORSE and MORE than Nixon ever dreamed of, and I have the Clinton Crime Family Foundation in mind, along with the Clinton Presidential Library and Massage Parlor, everything and everyone Slick Willy did while in office, and everything Crooked Hillary did on her own campaign trail, I mean...and no one has been subpoenaed or jailed yet?

Ronaldus Magnus called people out for being little whiny babies and refused to allow them to shut the country down, as with the 1981 incident I previously mentioned. Contrast with at least one leftist Dictator in Chief who INCITED riots.

Trump is NO DIFFERENT in my opinion than the culmination of conservative policies in restoring freedom to American voters. We have bureaucrats and career politicians who have been ineffective and obstructionist, we have never-Trumpers, we have RINOS, and they are leaving Washington. What we have left is the leftist Deep State, and yeah, it’s a Nixonian witch hunt when they wouldn’t dream of going after their own. They wouldn’t touch Carter. They wouldn’t touch Clinton. They wouldn’t touch Obama. And I doubt they’d even dream of going after Crooked Hillary had her collusion with the Russians succeeded and made her POTUS.

Which leaves what exactly Trump HAS gotten wrong since taking office. Trump’s biggest mistake when taking office was not firing everyone. And I do think he should have gone after Crooked Hillary.

Nixon was a paranoiac who was convinced all the world was out to get him, and so surrounded himself with people with the exact same mindset, resulting in a shared paranoid, siege mentality. Add to that that Nixon was the dirtiest player in the book, which allowed him and his henchmen to justify breaking the law - and lying about it - to protect himself from his own delusions of hippies and blacks coming for him.
If Goldwater hadn't have opened himself up to attack by playing a far right wing fanatic at a time when such talk was dangerous at an international level, there wouldn't have been an opening that his opponents felt justified in stabbing at. The funny thing is, he in later life revealed how he was nothing like this right wing crazy persona he pretended to be.
Trump is a lousy businessman, but a great con man. His whole goal in life is self aggrandizement, whether it's a matter of lying about how rich he really is, to grossly exaggerating the size of his inaugural crowd size, to pretending how he's intellectually and emotionally fit to run the nation's highest office, etc. It's all about him, not about American freedom. His attacks on a free, critical press should be a warning to all Americans that he doesn't take our country's freedoms seriously. The people he surrounds himself with are sycophants known for their corruption, such as Pruitt, or are cretinous idealouges like DeVos.
The deep state is nonexistent. It's a delusion dredged up by Fox and Friends and Hannity to explain away evidence of Trump's buffoonery, dalliances with the Russians, and his own corrupt and illicit activities going back years even before he was ever elected.
The right in fact had attacked Carter, Clinton, and Obama mercilessly, mostly with ridiculously see-through charges. Sure, Hillary Clinton was hardly the most honest straight shooter, and her husband had opened himself up to trouble during his administration with his indiscretions. It's best that the Clintons ride into the sunset. That said, her tenure as Secretary of State was blackened with charges by the right with little or no merit, and meant to derail her chances for the White House, and to attack Obama's credibility. The charges against her and Obama, especially in regard to collusion with the Russians with "uranium deals," has zero credibility, and has only been manufactured by the right because of the investigations into Trump's own under-the-table business with Putin and other sinister Russian intelligence agents-turned-oligarchs. By the way, there is zero evidence that Putin was in any way helping his nemesis, Hillary Clinton. But there is certainly more than enough that Team Trump had met with Russian higher ups to gain their support, including every underhanded scheme they and Wikileaks could dream up.
Obama incited riots? Really? And just how was he a totalitarian despot? I seem to remember him expanding freedom to marry to LGBT Americans, and had fought voter disenfranchisement - not the actions of a despot bent on taking away people's freedoms. It's Trump who is opposing all this, and is attacking a free press to boot.

And where is the evidence that Trump even was working with the Russians?

Obama had a nasty habit of inflicting policies upon Americans against their will. Certain policies, for instance, have proven to infringe upon religious freedom. The individual mandate forced unaffordable insurance on everyone. The BLM movement might as well have been wearing matching brown shirts for all their regard, and Obama’s, for law and order. Applies double for violent Latin American gangs, namely MS-13, who have thrived in the absence of immigration enforcement. And then there’s foreign policy that left us wide open for attack from extremists, and I believe we’ve been fortunate that terrorist activity was low as it was. Obama left the country in a mess, and Trump has been a breath of fresh air in the aftermath.

If someone is trying to bait and egg you into breaking the rules here, just ignore them. Don't respond. That is taking away their power and that is how you fight back. Be strong.

Trump Jr and company met with intelligence connected Russian higher ups who had offered to help get dirt on Clinton. Never once has Trump tried to stop Russian influence on our future elections. If anything, he's been sucking Putin's a$$hole rather than protecting America from Russian influence. On top of that, Putin has a history of influencing the elections of other countries, and so this is right up his alley.
As for Obama forcing policies on the American people:
While Obamacare had started out unpopular, far more Americans today support it once they have come to understand that it won't send old people to death panels. Millions of people who had not had medical coverage now do. I fail to see how that's possibly a bad thing. As for the individual mandate - - how is it supposed to get paid for?
I'm sure the policies infringing on religious freedom that you refer to is a matter of enforcing civil rights rights for LGBT Americans. Well, guess what, a cake maker can't deny making a wedding cake to an interracial couple because said cake maker opposes race mixing for being against the Lord's will, and neither can that cake maker deny a gay couple that cake on religious grounds, either. A business open to the public means just that. Plenty of Americans have in the past complained that their rights were being trampled on by the government for the sake of minorities. But that's just it, the government must protect not only the majority, but also the rights of vulnerable minorities.
Black Lives Matter as Brown Shirts?!?!?! Seriously? You do know that Black Americans are sick and tired of being overrepresented as fatalities by police shootings, don't you? Well, they are plainly sick and tired of it. Sure, some BLM groups have crossed the line, but the majority have not. And yes, I have seen that first hand. My wife and I had accompanied a friend to a BLM demonstration at the Spokane Courthouse. There was no violence. There was no hate from BLM. When a heckler started yelling at them, they had actually allowed him to come up to the microphone to speak. I've never heard of Brown Shirts acting like that.
The idea of illegal immigration laws becoming lax under Obama is a Republican lie. Latino Americans used to call Obama "the deporter-in-chief." As for MS-13 - - they are bad for sure, but they're also a boogeyman that racists on the right dredge up to demonize not only illegal Latino immigrants, but Latinos in general.
Yes, the Middle East is a mess. Yes, Obama's military adventurism backfired. But ultimately, the blame for the collapse for Middle Eastern stability rests with George W. Bush, with his idiotic idea that overthrowing Saddam Hussein would pave the way to democracy in that part of the world. ISIS is entirely Bush's legacy. And it's the legacy of the American right for cheering him on with f*cked up evangelcal pseudo-theology about this being the battle of Armageddon, issuing in the end of times which they so pine for.
It's a laugh to think Trump is going to fix anything. His answer to everything is show and no substance, like that idiotic wall, which will be remembered as Trump's Boondoggle for all the millions it'll cost Americans, if it ever gets built.

I was generalizing, and yes there are those special people with whom I take special pleasure in "debating" with.

I was actually talking about how Trump's winning really f****d them up and what a joy it was to see them writhing in agony over it, and how that pain continues to this day and beyond. They will b***h about this administration for decades to come. That is something to pass down to those who are not around yet to witness it.
Look at what effect The Gipper still has on them 30 years later.

And before someone says that this is trolling I’ll just say that the left brought this administration on themselves. They collectively created a climate favorable for a republican win in ’16 with their highhanded attitude toward the American voter, and how they’re not enlighten enough to know what’s best for them.
You reap what you sow.


California has gone to hell. I used to have a lot of relatives there but very few are left there now and I don't expect those few to hang aournd much longer. There are things I love about Cali but the bad outweigh the good and you couldn't pay me enough to live there.
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Meh...mostly fake news.

Or take it a step further and just don't read certain agitators posts at all. Just skip over them if you believe they are trolls.

The only fake news is coming from sources like Fox and Breitbart.

California, as with any state, moves in the direction that the majority of voters dictate at the polls. Most of the discontent comes fron two demographics for two different reasons.

1. Poor and lower economic working class white conservatives. They are upset because many of them have been slowly pushed inland to the desert by sky rocketing housing prices. They tend to make just enough to get by in fields that lack stability and resent state taxes and the concept of their tax money going to illegal immigrants, a group they compete with for jobs. Thar being said, they also resent state regulations that limit jobs available to them, though not as much as conservatives elsewhere seem to think. They tend to live in larger jurisdictions by area with low population density than liberals, making them look like they represent more of the state population than they do by people who misunderstand maps showing polical affiliation and poll results.

2. Jeffersonians. They occupy north eastern California near the state borders and have been wanting to secede long before the state became a blue state. They feel that for proximity, geographic and ecological reasons, they are not adequately represented and the state does not meet the needs of the region or than most voters are even familiar with the region. Currently they resent logging restrictions imposed by the state but they know logging is not a viable long term industry for their region. They envision that should they secede, after they exhaust logging resources, they will profit from prisons and control of water resources at some point.