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07 Jun 2018, 3:44 pm

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It's pretty damn simple everybody. Wars =\= good. Same goes for 'trade wars'. All this means is Donald wasn't paying attention in kindergarten.

For that matter he already flip-flopped twice about the DPRK summit. I'm not sold on giving a reality TV star the Nobel prize because we're already in an all-out cyber-warfare scenario with China & NK, his nuclear fame of footsie is only making that worse.
He also had nothing to do with the peace between NK and SK. The president of China deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for that. Donald's just really good at taking credit for the work of others, much like with the decreasing unemployment in the US. Heck, his immature Twitter comments were actually making Kim Jung Un more angry and more inclined to launch his nukes.



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07 Jun 2018, 4:31 pm

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The trade war will effect Americas farmers.We export chicken,rice,and soybeans from my state.Farmers have it tough enough already dealing with weather and fluctuations in prices.Its already hurting them,but hey, if there are plenty of jobs in the urban areas,then who cares about the people that put food on your plate?
https://www.agweb.com/mobile/blog/the-t ... ith-china/
And here I was thinking that idiot is the champion of rural Americans. Here in Canada we're only retaliating because if we just cave in to Donald's bullying he won't get the message that he can't just do whatever he wants and not suffer the consequences. It's unfortunate that people are getting caught in the crosshairs. That Oompa Loompa may be our enemy but you are not. In all fairness, Donald's tariffs are bad news for our steel and aluminum industry, so people on our side of the border are feeling this trade war too.

Canada is one of my states biggest trade partners,along with Mexico.We grow more rice than any other state,there was a deal going thru to export rice to China but our farmers can probably kiss all that goodbye.


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07 Jun 2018, 7:10 pm

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The trade war will effect Americas farmers.We export chicken,rice,and soybeans from my state.Farmers have it tough enough already dealing with weather and fluctuations in prices.Its already hurting them,but hey, if there are plenty of jobs in the urban areas,then who cares about the people that put food on your plate?
https://www.agweb.com/mobile/blog/the-t ... ith-china/
And here I was thinking that idiot is the champion of rural Americans. Here in Canada we're only retaliating because if we just cave in to Donald's bullying he won't get the message that he can't just do whatever he wants and not suffer the consequences. It's unfortunate that people are getting caught in the crosshairs. That Oompa Loompa may be our enemy but you are not. In all fairness, Donald's tariffs are bad news for our steel and aluminum industry, so people on our side of the border are feeling this trade war too.

Canada is one of my states biggest trade partners,along with Mexico.We grow more rice than any other state,there was a deal going thru to export rice to China but our farmers can probably kiss all that goodbye.
Let us all hope this trade war will not last long or we're all in trouble.



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11 Jun 2018, 1:35 pm

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11 Jun 2018, 9:19 pm

Trump hates my country. Isn't that a whopping huge surprise? :roll:

We're just the big friendly polite country, and Trump and his followers think "friendly and polite" are the same as "wimpy and easily pushed around". You never know, we could be the big friendly polite country that just snapped one day. :twisted:



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12 Jun 2018, 10:05 am

This is exciting ...

Trump says he will propose new tax cuts prior to November
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/22/donald- ... ember.html


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13 Jun 2018, 3:05 pm

At least it would be for accomplishing something, unlike the previous presidential recipient.

Two Norwegian Lawmakers Nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Prize

U.S. President Donald Trump was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in reaching an agreement to work toward de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

The U.S leader was nominated by two members of Norway’s governing Progress Party, according to state broadcaster NRK. The deadline for this year’s prize passed in January, so this nomination would make him eligible for next year. It is unclear whether he was nominated for this year’s prize, but he was also put forth as a candidate in 2016 and 2017.


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13 Jun 2018, 3:09 pm

Trump seems a bit too fond of North Korea's Dictator....but that is not a suprise considering his love for Putin. He really has a thing for leaders of authoritarian countries doesn't he?


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13 Jun 2018, 3:52 pm

Trump seems a bit too fond of North Korea's Dictator....but that is not a surprise considering his love for Putin. He really has a thing for leaders of authoritarian countries doesn't he?


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13 Jun 2018, 4:45 pm

About a trade war happening, why are both the financial AND the agricultural markets up? There is nothing wrong with reciprical trade.


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13 Jun 2018, 5:40 pm

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About a trade war happening, why are both the financial AND the agricultural markets up? There is nothing wrong with reciprical trade.


It depends on the product, and each product is it's own market when we're talking 'futures'. Example 1: soybeans are down 15% since the turn of the year due to possible retaliation in a trade war. Example 2: Wheat is up nearly 9% in the last two weeks due to an estimated poor harvest in Ukraine/Russia because of exceptionally dry weather there (scarcity raises prices). There is not an 'agriculture market', there's future markets for individual crops, because each crop is unique not only in how it's grown but also by the locations it's grown and the places it's eaten. Lumping it all together as 'agriculture' isn't really accurate and doesn't tell the whole tale, especially for farmers (we generally specialize in just one or two crops). I grow tomatoes and peppers, the price of wheat and soybeans have virtually no effect on my crops, therefore it's not part of my market. Tomatoes are up 2.5% from last year which is still horrible because it's the third straight year it hasn't kept up with inflation, peppers are down 2% mostly due to fears of NAFTA repeal. I sell locally, but I can't charge more than 5% more than a super market or people will just go there, so the international market affects me even though I don't sell internationally. Also if you're wondering why I charge more than a super market: unique genetics you can't find in a super market, and higher quality growing method (tomatoes are hydro, and the peppers are certified organic hydro).

Tomatoes have been a down market for three years and have nothing to with politics, but Trump's market uncertainty has hurt me on peppers, and in all honesty I will probably only break even with them this year. To me, it feels like Trump is picking winners and losers in this economy: steel's been dead for 40+ years, ag has been strong since the continent was opened to European colonists, so why on earth are why sacrificing our strongest economic markets to subsidize our weakest (almost non-existent) ones?



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13 Jun 2018, 5:45 pm

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Trump seems a bit too fond of North Korea's Dictator....but that is not a suprise considering his love for Putin. He really has a thing for leaders of authoritarian countries doesn't he?

Weren’t you saying he was r few weeks ago when trump was responding with military threats?
Leaders have to play nice at such meetings for the press Obama would done the same thing. If anything Obama was more friendly and just have Kim whatever he wanted.

It’s all show at these meetings. Past presidents have meet with dictators and monsters too.



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13 Jun 2018, 6:08 pm

There is indeed an agricultural market, and it is growing. Beef is up (in spite of lack of pasturage in the Southern Plains), pork is up, 175,000 MT of soybeans from the coming harvest was sold in the export market yesterday and many other indicators are up. The main problem with American agriculture is lack of crop diversity and inefficient practices.


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