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22 Jun 2018, 2:01 pm

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I'm a Lutheran, so I don't believe in any of that Millennialism or rapture crap anyhow.

And being a 'Lutheran', that's more than likely why you don't believe; St. Martin counted the Bible as the inerrant word of God, yet to call oneself a "Lutheran" rejects that, for St. Paul rebuked those who said, "I am of Paul", or "I am of Apollos", etc.

Are you for real? We Lutherans view the Bible in it's totality, we don't pick out verses that appear to support what we want to believe and blow off the rest.
Actually, that is called Catholicism, so named because it encapsulates all the teachings of Christ, and its use was first penned by St. Ignatius of Antioch, who is the little boy in the Gospel accounts whom Jesus embraced while telling His disciples to "hinder not the little children to come unto Me". Martin Luther attacked that.


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22 Jun 2018, 2:37 pm

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astrology?
I posted that during the day of the Northern Summer Solstice, in case you were too busy huffing to notice.
Oh, I'm familiar with the June Solstice, which occurred this year at 10:07 UJT.

And I don't do "huffing" (the inhalation of aromatic or petroleum vapors to induce euphoria) -- you are lying about this, just as you lie about being a prophet.



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22 Jun 2018, 4:42 pm

Edward_Palamar wrote:
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I'm a Lutheran, so I don't believe in any of that Millennialism or rapture crap anyhow.

And being a 'Lutheran', that's more than likely why you don't believe; St. Martin counted the Bible as the inerrant word of God, yet to call oneself a "Lutheran" rejects that, for St. Paul rebuked those who said, "I am of Paul", or "I am of Apollos", etc.

Are you for real? We Lutherans view the Bible in it's totality, we don't pick out verses that appear to support what we want to believe and blow off the rest.
Actually, that is called Catholicism, so named because it encapsulates all the teachings of Christ, and its use was first penned by St. Ignatius of Antioch, who is the little boy in the Gospel accounts whom Jesus embraced while telling His disciples to "hinder not the little children to come unto Me". Martin Luther attacked that.

And now you drag in Roman Catholic folklore, which can't be proven. Ignatius told Irenaeus that he had met several apostles, there was never any mention of him meeting Jesus or even being in Jerusalem.


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22 Jun 2018, 5:45 pm

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So the original poster (like Harold Camping, and like the Millerites of 19th Century New England, and like all of the other Doomesdayers of the last 2000 years), is claiming to know something that scripture says that even Christ himself doesn't know!

That is an ad hominem attack with much solid evidence against it, but you would actually have to read and study the topic to have any grasp of what you think you understand.

Are we having a 'bad hair day'?


No. It not any kind of "attack" on you. Its simply a statement of fact. You are claiming to know something that scripture clearly states than even Christ himself does not know.

Why do you read it as an "attack"? Is it because you are having a bad hair day?



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22 Jun 2018, 6:18 pm

Edward_Palamar wrote:
Actually, that is called Catholicism, so named because it encapsulates all the teachings of Christ, and its use was first penned by St. Ignatius of Antioch, who is the little boy in the Gospel accounts whom Jesus embraced while telling His disciples to "hinder not the little children to come unto Me". Martin Luther attacked that.


Interesting that out of all the Catholics, you seem to be the only one announcing December 29, 2018 A.D., the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14. Not the Vatican, bishops, cardinals or Pope Francis. Just Edward Palamar.



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22 Jun 2018, 6:42 pm

@Edward Palamar: You seem to have forgotten what the Apostle Paul wrote in Galatians 5:22-23, to wit:

The Apostle Paul wrote:
... the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but where is the love, the kindness, the gentleness and the self-control in lying to us about your alleged status as a prophet, the alleged "Day of the Lord", and our alleged off-line behavior?

Where in the Bible are you commanded to bear false witness, to practice divination (astrology, numerology, et cetera), and to disrespect the Word of the Lord?

Oh, and the link in your first post triggers the following warning:
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Furthermore, when I allowed the content to be displayed, what popped up was a porn site. I have reported this to the moderators of WrongPlanet.

So, for your edification, it is my duty to inform you that we here at WrongPlanet are Autistic, not stupid. :roll:



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22 Jun 2018, 7:22 pm

Members are reminded to exercise caution in the matter of opening links that are "http" and have no safety 's' after http. The link in the OP has been reported as triggering a safety warning from McAfee and taking a user to a porn site. It has been removed for this reason. (If you don't have good anti-virus protection, then clicking on any safety uncertified link is very risky net behaviour at any time.)



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22 Jun 2018, 10:47 pm

Good luck with all of this - meaning your ride into and through the end of December.

I had a lot of very strange things line up for me in late 2012 and early 2013, nothing to do with Mayan thing but more to do with when a trail of getting curious about reading increasingly nosebleed new age stuff lead me to double back to the bible. I probably read the bible cover to cover a couple times in the course of half a year (work was that dead) and the books I found most interesting like the Samuels, minor prophets, etc. may have gotten significantly more laps as well as Hebrews. I also had a lot of what one might call visions albeit they seemed to come more as a result of reading Hermetic texts and getting reintroduced to that.

I think the thing I came away with, after that as well as a few months of Tom Horn, Steve Quayle, Hagmann and Hagmann, etc. is that things are loopy, people are anxious about the future and how little grasp most of us feel we have on just what the basis of this world is or what kind of story is unfolding. Halfway to where Tom Horn is at I don't discount the notion that there's a bit of a Magonia or 'messengers of deception' aspect along the lines Jacques Vallee suggested - ie. that we're being manipulated or threaded a long a bit. Rather than being something wildly eschatological I think there's a more simple explaination, that when we dream at night we're doing what matter does.
Most prophecy seems to be like getting hit with something like conscious lightning. Sometimes it was an interesting gas of some type such as with the oracle of Delphi but there were also the times where people fell on the ground, got naked, prophecying their faces off. People still do have profound mystical experiences when faced with the right symbols or ideas, some people will hear angel trumpets, and in my own experience I had a very vivid encounter with something that had been sort of gently lurking in the background for a very long time.

For the core deliverable of what the bible is I'm somewhere between Jordan Peterson and Manly P Hall on the contents. I think what Peterson tends to leave alone is the astrotheological import, which the Babylonian captivity would make all the sense in the world of. Looking at the closest predecessor to the current calendar and it's divisions they seem to come out of Babylon right around the time of the captivity. Moreover it seems like a polytheistic Canaanite people were, after the conquest of Babylon by the Persians, brought under their system which was rather close to albeit not quite a monotheism - rather it had a much more direct Augustinian faceoff between good and evil, Ahriman and Ahura Mazda. A lot of people do credit Ezra for the turn things took with Judaism. As for Christianity it seems deeply Neoplatonist and Hermetic, especially in looking at so much of John and Paul's language. Phrases like 'I am the true vine' or 'if you have seen me you've seen the Father' speaks very strongly in the direction of archetypal man, or what many in kabbalistic/qabalistic circles would call Adam Kadmon which is possibly quite often the Jesus of many people's NDE's and similarly Isis/Sophia is their Mary Queen of Heaven.


I think the times we're headed toward are interesting but they have a lot more to do with us grappling with technology, grappling with human instinct, and trying to overcome the worst traps that evolution and natural selection have laid for us in that what kept us alive in the past threatens to rend society and even the future of the human species in a different set and setting. It's very interesting that concepts of the divine feminine would take off as much as they have lately and it probably has something to do with our need to curb our more aggressive impulses for our survival as a species. Ra and Ma, Father and Mother, if they're fully self-coagulated and self-conscious forces seem to only touch things in the most granular ways and it may very well be that what they are is so distributed throughout nature that their identities maybe as complex/compound as our own. Whatever is happening it seems like it's a slow progress, absolutely no lack of abject human misery, but as I watch it seems like a lot of mechanisms around us keep us moving forward and so many of them do reach back to hypnagogic or liminal zones.


I know a lot of that may have seemed more than a bit convoluted but if you try taking this stuff in from all angles there isn't much reason to believe that it's in any way dependent on human preferences for expedience. As for this whole thing, your ends times prediction for the end of 2018 - I'm as sure as most people here that if your health holds out you'll be here for new years day 2019 with the rest of us. The bible is full of numbers, not just overt but also in the ways which the Hebrew alphabet doubles as a number system and there's a lot of evidence that they made ample use of that. The point being a lot of strong cases can be made in isolation about what one number looks like, but then when all the evidence in favor of that idea gets brought together it barely scratches 1 or 2% of the bible, often loses sight of the bigger story, and in context with everything else it loses it's persuasive power.


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23 Jun 2018, 12:08 am

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Oh, and the link in your first post triggers the following warning:
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Furthermore, when I allowed the content to be displayed, what popped up was a porn site. I have reported this to the moderators of WrongPlanet.

So, for your edification, it is my duty to inform you that we here at WrongPlanet are Autistic, not stupid. :roll:


Prophesy and porn ftw.



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23 Jun 2018, 4:41 am

I wonder if the 51 people who died in the sinking of the SS Andrea Doria on the OP's day of birth was predicted in the bible ?


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29 Aug 2018, 10:58 pm

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Regular updates to the countdown to the Day of the Lord by the sign of the Son of Man in Heaven at :

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This countdown runs until Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D., the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14.


A link usually does connect to another website.

It was included for intelligent and polite conversation, not an invitation to Russian tyranny.

The countdown is at 120 now, good luck!


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04 Sep 2018, 8:11 pm

The Bible says Jesus will come like a thief in the night and no one knows when he'll return.

The Bible also commands you not to predict the future.

Also, why does the OP hate Wikipedia so much?


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05 Sep 2018, 2:41 pm

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I suspect this person will change the date once 12/29/2018 passes....perhaps to 9/9/2062?
There is no further reckoning of the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14 past Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D. The celebration of the Feastday of the Holy Family occurs within the octave just past the Feastday of the Nativity (December 25). As such there are other prophecies which indicate a major warning within the octave before this coming December 29th, which will put us at the next solstice.
Not only numerology, but astrology?! Dude, you are seriously digging your own pit to eternal damnation!

If this were Biblical times -- especially the time of Daniel (a real prophet) -- you would have been stoned to death by now for blasphemy, sorcery, and false prophesy.

As for that 'Feastday' you mentioned ... how do you like your crow?

:lol:

Genesis 1:14

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Maybe he meant like street signs?


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05 Sep 2018, 8:01 pm

It seems like the end of the world is every six months according to some religious person. I suppose someone will get it right one of these times just given the statistics of how often they predict it.



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05 Sep 2018, 8:45 pm

I wonder what it's like to be a Christian amillenialist watching this sort of thing.


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06 Sep 2018, 7:20 am

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It seems like the end of the world is every six months according to some religious person. I suppose someone will get it right one of these times just given the statistics of how often they predict it.


Four and half billion years from now the Sun will turn into a red giant and effectively end the world. But I doubt that our species will be around that far into the future. Maybe the Meerkats will evolve into sentience and have a civilization, and maybe they will have televangelists who have end times prophecies. So one of them will get it right just by chance (will make a prophecy just before the sun goes nova).

However there is hope for a correct prophecy sooner! there is that little thing called the Yellowstone Supervolcano that's due to blow any time in the next few thousand years. Humans will probably still be around. Some evangelist will say the end is nigh in the year 3000 AD, and then the next day Yellow Stone will blow and in minutes will turn all of North American into one big piece of burnt toast(and all human civilization will collapse). So that would be close enough for me to be considered "the end of the world". So there is hope yet that some evangelist will get it right! :D