Theocratic America

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Those groups make no distinction between Luther, Rome and Constantinople. In short, if it walks like a duck, etc.

When I said "Christian values," I wasn't really talking about explicit religious values. I was talking more in generalized terms.

Most of the Founding Fathers were not really religious. They were Deists. They believe, in essence, that God created the world, then withdrew and let us handle our own affairs. They were usually very much into the philosophy of John Locke. And into relative rationalism in general, characteristic of the "Enlightenment."

We've got a lunatic here in the east side of Washington state by the name of Matt Shea who somehow keeps getting himself elected to the state legislature. It's been found he's got a game plan already worked out for how he and his supporters will establish a fundamentalist theocracy through force by use of his militia buddies when society collapses. This dystopia would execute gays and trans citizens, and abortion providers just for starters.

He can have all the game plans he likes. The fact remains that Christians don't win in the end times. God wins, but it's by the fulfillment of prophecy and the earth is ultimately destroyed. So, for any reject to think that they are doing God's will by wrangling gays, trans and abortionists is just stupid. Apparently Matt doesn't read the Bible... the Christians are the ones getting tortured, not the 'sinners.'

From Wikipedia:

Matthew Thomas Shea (born April 18, 1974) is an American politician.  A Republican, he serves in the Washington House of Representatives, representing the 4th Legislative District.

In October 2018 Shea acknowledged that he had distributed a four page manifesto which called for the killing of non-Christian males if a war were to occur and they do not agree to follow fundamentalist biblical law.  Shea was referred to the FBI for investigation as a result.  In April 2019 Shea was removed as State House Republican Caucus Chair for advocating violence against religious minorities and offering state surveillance of political enemies to members of hate groups.

Matt Shea was divorced from his first wife in January 2008.  His first wife Lisa was granted a protective order by a court after filing court documents complaining that Matt treated her "as a possession," and was physically and emotionally abusive.  Lisa's brother-in-law testified in court documents that he saw Matt grabbing Lisa "very hard and violently" and pushed her into a vehicle.  She attested that Matt "insisted she walk on his left side because his sword, if he had one, would be on his right side", forbade her from writing a church bulletin, and protested that he would not seek profitable employment despite being a lawyer.  Matt denied any physical abuse, called Lisa a "product of the foster care system", and noted that this was her third divorce.  Matt Shea subsequently remarried.

In November 2011, Shea allegedly "pulled a gun during a confrontation with another motorist" in what police reports described as an incident of road rage.  Shea was initially charged with possessing a loaded handgun in a vehicle without a concealed weapons permit; the charge was ultimately resolved under a "stipulated order of continuance," in which "Shea paid a $75 fee and agreed that the information in the police report is correct" and the charge was dismissed after the passage of one year with no criminal violations.

Yeah ... a real piece o'work, that one is!

How can this guy Shea keep getting back into office if he was already removed once for advocating violence against religious minorities?

He's from the section of the country where While Nationalism is accepted as a way of life -- Washington state, Idaho, and Montana. His constituents see him as someone who will work to preserve their way of life.

Most American Christians are Catholic, with Southern Baptists (the largest evangelical denomination) a distant second.

Pence, a non-denominational evangelical Christian, would be seriously outnumbered.

America is a majority Protestant nation.. Has always been. And still is. I just explained that above. Cant you read?
We have had only one non protestant POTUS.

Catholics may be ...the largest SINGLE.... denomination in America. But they are not the majority of Americans nor even the majority of the sixty percent of Americans who religious enough to be regular church goers.

Being the largest single sect is not the same thing as being "the majority". Most "American Christians" are something OTHER than Catholic. And most (including non demoninational Evangelicals) are lumped under "Protestant".

An interesting point. After all, the KKK even make much hay out of the fact that Adolf Hitler was born into a Catholic family. They also persecuted German Americans in the First World War, as well.

Actually, a Gallup poll published on December 23, 2016, revealed the following statistics about religion in the United States:

• 48.9% Protestant
• 23.0% Roman Catholicism
• 18.2% No religion
• 2.7% No response given/Unknown
• 2.5% Other non-Christian religion (i.e., Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, et cetera)
• 2.1% Judaism
• 1.08% Mormonism
• 0.8% Islam

Pence, a non-denominational evangelical Christian, would be widely supported, even if he wasn't elected.

It's not entirely on topic to say this, but this thread has lasted longer than I thought it would. I never really thought of a theocratic United States of America, though such a thing exists in the minds of certain Evangelical pastors.

Ok...if it’s a theocracy you want, anyone can get it. Carve out a pocket within the state, buy some property, set some rules that EVERYONE must obey if they wish to continue to exist there. The Amish do it. Heck, Utah is pretty much a Mormon state. Fundie LDS occupies entire towns. The local church is pretty much its own village, and yes, my FAMILY has been escorted off a church campus before because an idiot staffer took issue with my wife. The RCC pretty much is a global government. And outside Christianity there are Islamist groups vying for Shariah Law in local court systems with rules that only apply to them. There’s not really anyone stopping anyone from setting up a theocracy or stopping everyone who wants to from joining one. Even Scientology has worked overtime to manipulate the legal system in their favor.

I think there are parameters within which you must cooperate with sovereign nations, compliance with state/federal law, etc. In America, this happens MOSTLY without government intrusion, although some exception is made with bakers who don’t like being told what kind of cake to make. Otherwise, people pretty much stay out of each other’s way.

It irks me that American conservative Christians are compared directly to radical Islam.

Not me.  Sharia Law is not far removed from Puritan Law.  The punishment of heretics and so-called "witches" comes to mind as does the public humiliations of adulterers and drunkards under both sets of laws, for example.

There is also the cultural difference. American conservatives are mostly Christian and believe institutions should encourage Christian morality but balanced with the tradition of liberalism (traditional and not modern-day liberalism which is more close to social democracy).