Congratulations America
The gravity of the moment is clear: Today marks the beginning of the end of an era. An era defined by scandal after scandal, conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, and lie after lie. An era in which name-calling and bullying were normalized. An era in which norms were repeatedly and brazenly violated. An era in which the President fanned the flames of division and cheered on calls for his political opponents to be imprisoned. An era which will end with hundreds of thousands dead as a result of a horribly managed pandemic.
Beginning very early on in his bid for reelection, Mr. Trump and his surrogates sought to undermine the democratic process, falsely asserting that the increase in mail-in ballots, largely driven by the pandemic, would lead to widespread fraud. That stance primed the president's supporters for his eventual false claim that Democrats were trying to steal the election.
As Joe Biden takes the stage in Delaware Saturday night to deliver a victory speech, the Trump campaign is grappling with the reality of a loss. Some staffers said they had come to grips with losing in recent days, others said it did not feel real until Fox News made the final call on Saturday.
In public, Mr. Trump and his campaign have vowed to pursue legal challenges aggressively. "We will pursue this process through every aspect of the law to guarantee that the American people have confidence in our government", Trump said in a statement Friday. "I will never give up fighting for you and our nation."
Though the Trump team has filed lawsuits in several states (many of which have been dismissed and others are pending), sources familiar with the actions stress to ABC News that there has been internal bickering over the suits with some members of the president's legal team feeling they are both pointless and lacking in merit.
The campaign recognizes that Mr. Trump's legal options are limited, given his large deficits in Georgia and Pennsylvania. There are only so many legal options that he has, and even those legal options do not make sense because he still does not get to the 270 electoral votes necessary for him to be declared president.
Mr. Trump has lost his bid for re-election. That makes him a loser. He hates being called a loser, but that is exactly what the election results have made him.
Donald J. Trump: LOSER.
I'm not sure what "centre right on an international scale" could ever mean, as national context always shapes national political discourse, but 2020 Biden is clearly to the left of centre-left Third Way figures like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Bob Hawke, Emmanuel Macron, Matteo Renzi, Antonio Guterres, etc. I would compare him to figures like Keir Starmer, Francois Hollande, Martin Schulz, etc. I don't think it's fair to call him far-left by any means, but his platform in this election was in line with left-wing of the European centre-left. Few centre-right figures would adopt Biden's rhetoric on race, crime, gender, or trade, and his healthcare and education policies are in line with most European countries.
There is still a chance the Democrats could take the Senate if they win both runoffs in Georgia. But Republicans have historically done better in run-offs. There will need to be dedicated efforts to get Democratic supporters out to vote.
It's true that context affects discourse and that some political figures would advocate different policies in different countries but it doesn't follow that you can't make comparisons between different countries. For example, having a public option instead of single payer would be considered center-right in most of the world and would put Biden to the right of people like Blair and Starmer on that issue. Not making such comparisons is misleading and entrenches the current overton window. I agree that his current platform is to the left of Bill Clinton and that the Democratic party is left-leaning on social issues.
On healthcare, I think Americans tend to overestimate how far left other countries are. Joe Biden’s healthcare plan is a form of universal healthcare in line with what we see in France or Germany.
The UK is the furthest left country on healthcare in the free world. Comparing Biden to Blair solely on that one issue is always going to be misleading. Bernie Sanders’ 2016 proposal was in line with what the British far right want to do with healthcare, but nobody would seriously say that this makes Bernie Sanders a neo-Nazi on a global scale. (Sanders’ 2020 proposal of banning private health insurance does not have any precedent in the free world and is genuinely far-left).
Well let’s hope that Biden can do economic magic for the country , am fearing the. New administration will be mired in mediocrity. Am praying that this new administration will bring some good changes .
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[quote="VegetableMan"]Biden, like Obama will do nothing to address climate change. Obama presided over a record increase in oil production, heavily promoted fracking, and opened up the Arctic to drilling twice. He also sat back and watched the indigenous people during the DAPL protests, who were defending their water from the pipeline forced through their land, get blasted with water cannons in subfreezing weather. Biden will do do jack s**t for the environment. He won't even support the Green New Deal.
Biden voted for the Iraq War, and supported all the five wars Obama got us into. He's a tool for the MIC.
Yes, he's definitely a war criminal. All U.S. presidents, as Noam Chomsky accurately stated, would be indictable for war crimes if held to the standards of the Nuremberg military tribunals.[/quote
Under Obama US carbon dioxide emissions per capita fell from 18.5 metric tonnes (2008) to 16.4 metric tonnes (2016). There was also huge investment in clean energy research that will pay off in the future, and international co-operation which led to the Paris Agreement, the most widely signed climate agreement in history.
The Green New Deal is a great example of political corruption. There’s a good core there of the policies of the Obama administration and those Biden has indicated he will support. However, a bunch of special interest groups have latched onto the idea and corrupted it with various stupid riders and unhelpful demands, like opposition to a carbon tax, carbon capture, and nuclear power, as well as a rider demanding a federal jobs guarantee. Biden’s climate plan contains all the good elements of the GND without the idealism. It’s an ambitious but practical plan to get to net zero by 2050.
Biden’s foreign policy record is better characterised as weird than hawkish or dovish. He was opposed to the Gulf War, which was a great conflict that George HW Bush was absolutely correct to fight. He supported the intervention in Kosovo, which again was absolutely the right thing to do. The Iraq War was extremely popular at its outset and supporting it is not a war crime.
Can you point to any actual war crimes committed by Joe Biden? A war crime is not a catch-all term for things one doesn’t like, but has a specific meaning under international law. Presumably you are able to point to the laws Biden has broken and provide evidence that he has broken them?
Rebuilding after a crisis - effort of countless resourceful people - has worked here before so I believe it can work again.
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Rebuilding after a crisis - effort of countless resourceful people - has worked here before so I believe it can work again.
Which ? Crisis , ?
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Rebuilding after a crisis - effort of countless resourceful people - has worked here before so I believe it can work again.
You mean what worked here?
In the 1980s, Poland was one of the poorest states in the Eastern Bloc. Queues and complex unofficial networking were the reality of everyday struggle to obtain the most basic goods.
In 2010s, we were well-off enough to attract considerable economic immigration.
What happened in the meantime? 1990s, full of messy, colorful, tiny businesses that finally could operate legally to adress first the most basic needs, then more.
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I actually wonder if he will last too much longer anyway. In 10 months the polling has gone from him having a 26% lead to now not even being in the lead at all. While we wont have an election for some time, the 1922 Committee watch these things closely and the Tories are as ruthless a political party as you get. If they feel he is damaging the party they will kick him out. Though not until he has served his Brexit purpose of course.
Wouldnt be surprised if he was gone by next summer. Feels like we rarely go a week these days without some major scandal and a big policy U-turn after he pledges he definitely wont U-turn on it (another one just this morning I see)
I actually wonder if he will last too much longer anyway. In 10 months the polling has gone from him having a 26% lead to now not even being in the lead at all. While we wont have an election for some time, the 1922 Committee watch these things closely and the Tories are as ruthless a political party as you get. If they feel he is damaging the party they will kick him out. Though not until he has served his Brexit purpose of course.
Wouldnt be surprised if he was gone by next summer. Feels like we rarely go a week these days without some major scandal and a big policy U-turn after he pledges he definitely wont U-turn on it (another one just this morning I see)
Joe is going to hold him to account with Ireland.
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I actually wonder if he will last too much longer anyway. In 10 months the polling has gone from him having a 26% lead to now not even being in the lead at all. While we wont have an election for some time, the 1922 Committee watch these things closely and the Tories are as ruthless a political party as you get. If they feel he is damaging the party they will kick him out. Though not until he has served his Brexit purpose of course.
Wouldnt be surprised if he was gone by next summer. Feels like we rarely go a week these days without some major scandal and a big policy U-turn after he pledges he definitely wont U-turn on it (another one just this morning I see)
Joe is going to hold him to account with Ireland.
Does sound like it. Will be a good thing too.
Reckon Johnson was crying into his cornflakes this morning at the news of Biden winning

I actually wonder if he will last too much longer anyway. In 10 months the polling has gone from him having a 26% lead to now not even being in the lead at all. While we wont have an election for some time, the 1922 Committee watch these things closely and the Tories are as ruthless a political party as you get. If they feel he is damaging the party they will kick him out. Though not until he has served his Brexit purpose of course.
Wouldnt be surprised if he was gone by next summer. Feels like we rarely go a week these days without some major scandal and a big policy U-turn after he pledges he definitely wont U-turn on it (another one just this morning I see)
If next year's local elections are as disastrous for the Tories as I think they will be, then Boris will be gone very soon afterwards.
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