30 Nov 2020, 7:04 pm
30 Nov 2020, 7:21 pm
I don't see any impartial observers here.
If you ask me, threads like this exist to draw attention away from what's already happened, towards an obvious cause & effect related to the downturn in violence after the election.
This isn't research, it's not a debate, it's partisan misdirection & you all know it.
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30 Nov 2020, 7:27 pm
30 Nov 2020, 7:49 pm
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30 Nov 2020, 7:51 pm
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30 Nov 2020, 7:54 pm
30 Nov 2020, 8:20 pm
30 Nov 2020, 8:26 pm
Redd_Kross wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Cyberdad is a very astute observer of American politics.
In order to hold any meaning, however, you would need an impartial (rather than a partisan "Trump"\"not Trump") person to have made the statement.
As it is, this is just another form of "He must be right because I agree with him" comment, which provides no value to the discussion, particularly because no evidence has been provided to support an assertion of his being an "astute observer".
I'm really glad you've clarified that this is completely different from you attacking Cyberdad purely because he DIDN'T agree with you - in other words "He must be wrong because I disagree with him". Especially as you've provided no evidence he's NOT an "astute observer".
Otherwise you'd look like a petty hypocrite, wouldn't you?
As you would have noticed in the source quote (where the above excerpt came from), there is no evidence included to suport claims of anyone being an "astute observer":
Kraichgauer wrote:
It's a fact that white nationalist hate groups have grown since Trump has been in office. It's a fact that they believe he's on their side - - they've even said so. That's unless you're into Trump's conspiracy theories about the FBI being against him.
Cyberdad is a very astute observer of American politics. His conclusions are on the mark.
Just what exactly are the Democrats supposed to have "gotten up to?"
Cyberdad is a very astute observer of American politics. His conclusions are on the mark.
Just what exactly are the Democrats supposed to have "gotten up to?"
Source: https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=392582&p=8663420#p8663420
As such, it is not unreasonable to indicate this lack of supporting evidence for an assertion of "astute observation", particularly in light of the apparent lack of "objectivity" from the person who made the initial claim, given:
Kraichgauer wrote:
They're probably waiting for their orange messiah to win by recount 
. When Biden gets sworn in we'll see if they remain civil.
. When Biden gets sworn in we'll see if they remain civil.Source: https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=392582&p=8662356#p8662356
and:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Cyberdad wrote:
I must say I love the sound of "post trump" 
It's music to my ears!
Source: https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=392582&p=8663117#p8663117
Naturally, if Cyberdad ever produces evidence for his assertions, I'm happy to consider that, and to potentially alter my views on the subject being discussed (or to provide more recent\accurate counter-evidence): Just because I may not always agree with people doesn't mean that I assume that they are automatically wrong.
30 Nov 2020, 8:29 pm
StayFrosty wrote:
This place is infected with die-hard democrats! They always attack the Republicans but never their own. Multiple Democratic politicians have been caught red handed not wearing masks in public or social gatherings. Covid-19 is to control the population.
Partisanship is a problem.
Auties aren't "supposed" to be like that, according to the Autism manual.
30 Nov 2020, 8:31 pm
VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
They're just so deplorable *sigh*
Hillary Clinton was absolutely correct. The MAGAs were deplorables.
A war mongering, corrupt piece of s**t like Hillary has no right to call anyone else "deplorable." That's like Michael Jackson calling someone "crazy."
The reason Trump got in was that Hillary was unpopular, so give her a break.
30 Nov 2020, 8:32 pm
cyberdad wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
They're just so deplorable *sigh*
Hillary Clinton was absolutely correct. The MAGAs were deplorables.
A war mongering, corrupt piece of s**t like Hillary has no right to call anyone else "deplorable." That's like Michael Jackson calling someone "crazy."
Regardless of what she's accused of, she's correct in surmising that Trump inspires the worst traits in people to come up to the fore.
Hence, the antifa and BLM rioting, agreed.
30 Nov 2020, 8:35 pm
Brictoria wrote:
Actually, he may have a point...
cyberdad wrote:
she's correct in surmising that Trump inspires the worst traits in people to come up to the fore.
You may have noticed this doesn't specifiy whether it was "Trump supporters" who were being described...It is quite possible that the targetted group was the "Trump detractors", which would seem entirely plausible based on their actions leading since his election in 2016 (Russia interference, riots, etc.). When you look at their actions since the results of the vote counting came in this year, it certainly seems to reinforce this as the likely group being discussed.
That was the obvious conclusion I came to, also.
The left of politics tend to have a greater number of violent/emotional people, it seems.
I like it when cyber gives us "a free kick".
30 Nov 2020, 8:38 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
They're just so deplorable *sigh*
Hillary Clinton was absolutely correct. The MAGAs were deplorables.
A war mongering, corrupt piece of s**t like Hillary has no right to call anyone else "deplorable." That's like Michael Jackson calling someone "crazy."
Regardless of what she's accused of, she's correct in surmising that Trump inspires the worst traits in people to come up to the fore. Any wonder really, his hand picked chief strategist Steve Bannon is far-right with known sympathies for neo-Nazi groups. Trump's legacy will be always enshrined by his choices.
It would be nice if you actually had a f*****g clue what the Democrats have gotten up to, but you don't. Stick to Australian politics.
It's a fact that white nationalist hate groups have grown since Trump has been in office. It's a fact that they believe he's on their side - - they've even said so. That's unless you're into Trump's conspiracy theories about the FBI being against him.
Cyberdad is a very astute observer of American politics. His conclusions are on the mark.
Just what exactly are the Democrats supposed to have "gotten up to?"
From where I sit, I see him being partisan/one-sided, and he isn't even an American.
I find it rather odd.
I'm not surprised you like his views, since he agrees with you.
I like him when we aren't in a political forum, btw.
30 Nov 2020, 8:43 pm
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Cyberdad is a very astute observer of American politics.
In order to hold any meaning, however, you would need an impartial (rather than a partisan "Trump"\"not Trump") person to have made the statement.
As it is, this is just another form of "He must be right because I agree with him" comment, which provides no value to the discussion, particularly because no evidence has been provided to support an assertion of his being an "astute observer".
Reason prevails, yet again.
30 Nov 2020, 8:44 pm
cberg wrote:
I don't see any impartial observers here.
If you ask me, threads like this exist to draw attention away from what's already happened, towards an obvious cause & effect related to the downturn in violence after the election.
This isn't research, it's not a debate, it's partisan misdirection & you all know it.
If you ask me, threads like this exist to draw attention away from what's already happened, towards an obvious cause & effect related to the downturn in violence after the election.
This isn't research, it's not a debate, it's partisan misdirection & you all know it.
Who are you talking to?
If you see civil unrest, from the Republicans, post it in this thread.
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30 Nov 2020, 8:44 pm
