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01 Feb 2021, 1:18 pm

And don't worry hen i wouldnt put mine near yours anyhow. You clearly missunderstood my first post as i have a way of wording thing. But i was referring to what i said in other posts then i get attacked with rape victims and so on which i wasnt mentioning them it was idiots who have one night stands.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:18 pm

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Making the mother solely responsible for the well-being of her children while the father can freely abdicate his responsibility is a form of female enslavement.  Both parents should be held fully accountable.  Along with this, no person should be forced to raise a child that is not his or her own.
How about a man giving the woman a "choice": abortion or it's your problem?  I've encountered that.
GACH!  I have seen that.  I have also seen the flip side: "Marry me or I abort your child".  It is a ghastly thing when people use abortion as an ultimatum or for blackmail.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:20 pm

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And how about you go deal with your self esteem problems elswhere. And before you rant about being attacked you started it with your stupid comment. I was addressing my opinions but guess you can't do that here.
To whom was this directed?



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01 Feb 2021, 1:22 pm

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... But people who do get pregnant should be the ones making these choices...
↑ THIS ↑

For the win!

We men should not be deciding who can and cannot have an abortion, or who can and cannot even get pregnant.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:25 pm

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Every life is precious. Children don't ask to be here so that's on the person. If you can't handle the responsibility keep it in your trousers or keep your legs shut. Simple as that.


Hey, how about you keep your dick out of our vagina, problem solved.


To this is was related to.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:33 pm

People put there who say "don't have sex if you don't have kids" are probably the asexuals saying it because they cannot relate nor understand what it is like having a sex drive and they don't try to take the effort to understand it which is why asexuals get so much hate. Same reason why so many people hate atheists'. They don't respect their religion and they keep calling them mentally ill and so on.


I used to be one of those idiots to say "don't have sex if you don't want kids" but as I got older, I realized this is a asexual privilege or a gray a privilege. People who have sex drives can't just not have sex. Women do tend to have lower sex drives than men so they are probably the ones saying this too. Lot of men don't even have to think about this because they are not the ones getting pregnant and they can f**k any woman they want and only thing they have to worry about is paying child support if the woman files for it and some states make it mandatory so it's not always the woman doing it, it's the state. But it's always interesting when I see single moms getting hate but no one hates on the men who are not raising their kids they made and walking away.

I am not against men who walk away from it who made it clear from the beginning they do not want to have children and have used condoms but accidents happen and sometimes the woman oopsies the man thinking he will change his mind. And there have been women that have walked away too from being a mom by either leaving their partner after they have the baby their ex wanted to have so bad or they put their baby up for adoption. Not all women choose to have an abortion and sometimes it's not possible to have one due to cost or the closest free abortion clinic is hours away.


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01 Feb 2021, 1:36 pm

magz wrote:
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Making the mother solely responsible for the well-being of her children while the father can freely abdicate his responsibility is a form of female enslavement.  Both parents should be held fully accountable.  Along with this, no person should be forced to raise a child that is not his or her own.

How about a man giving the woman a "choice": abortion or it's your problem?
I've encountered that.



So has my sister in law. Her ex tried to make her abort her baby each time she got pregnant. He was abusive and he ended up going to prison for statuary rape. I don't know where he is now. This is just what my husband told me.


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01 Feb 2021, 1:44 pm

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People put there who say "don't have sex if you don't have kids" are probably the asexuals saying it because they cannot relate nor understand what it is like having a sex drive and they don't try to take the effort to understand it which is why asexuals get so much hate...
No, I say this not out of hatred, but out of sadness for those who thought sex was just something fun to do, and then had to discard their own dreams and ambitions to raise an unwanted child whom they emotionally abused and neglected.

Sex is the number-one most common cause for pregnancy.  No sex means no pregnancy.  Simple logic.

Sure, some people cannot seem to walk out the door without leading with their crotches, but if that is the behavior they want to exhibit, then they had better be prepared for the consequences.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:45 pm

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Making the mother solely responsible for the well-being of her children while the father can freely abdicate his responsibility is a form of female enslavement.  Both parents should be held fully accountable.  Along with this, no person should be forced to raise a child that is not his or her own.
How about a man giving the woman a "choice": abortion or it's your problem?  I've encountered that.
GACH!  I have seen that.  I have also seen the flip side: "Marry me or I abort your child".  It is a ghastly thing when people use abortion as an ultimatum or for blackmail.

Neither sounds like a good foundation for a family.
That's why - believing legal abortion is in current circumstances the lesser evil than illegal abortion - I find promotion of basic responsibility in sex crucial. Not abstinence, that's unrealistic. Responsibility and awareness of possible risks.


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01 Feb 2021, 1:46 pm

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magz wrote:
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Making the mother solely responsible for the well-being of her children while the father can freely abdicate his responsibility is a form of female enslavement.  Both parents should be held fully accountable.  Along with this, no person should be forced to raise a child that is not his or her own.
How about a man giving the woman a "choice": abortion or it's your problem?  I've encountered that.
So has my sister in law. Her ex tried to make her abort her baby each time she got pregnant. He was abusive and he ended up going to prison for statuary rape. I don't know where he is now. This is just what my husband told me.
I hope you can find out, if only to know where another sexual predator may be lurking.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:48 pm

magz wrote:
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Making the mother solely responsible for the well-being of her children while the father can freely abdicate his responsibility is a form of female enslavement.  Both parents should be held fully accountable.  Along with this, no person should be forced to raise a child that is not his or her own.
How about a man giving the woman a "choice": abortion or it's your problem?  I've encountered that.
GACH!  I have seen that.  I have also seen the flip side: "Marry me or I abort your child".  It is a ghastly thing when people use abortion as an ultimatum or for blackmail.
Neither sounds like a good foundation for a family.  That's why - believing legal abortion is in current circumstances the lesser evil than illegal abortion - I find promotion of basic responsibility in sex crucial. Not abstinence, that's unrealistic. Responsibility and awareness of possible risks.
Then on these points, we agree.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:51 pm

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People put there who say "don't have sex if you don't have kids" are probably the asexuals saying it because they cannot relate nor understand what it is like having a sex drive and they don't try to take the effort to understand it which is why asexuals get so much hate...
No, I say this not out of hatred, but out of sadness for those who thought sex was just something fun to do, and then had to discard their own dreams and ambitions to raise an unwanted child whom they emotionally abused and neglected.

Sex is the number-one most common cause for pregnancy.  No sex means no pregnancy.  Simple logic.

Sure, some people cannot seem to walk out the door without leading with their crotches, but if that is the behavior they want to exhibit, then they had better be prepared for the consequences.



Honestly I would rather if the parent just walks out of their kid's life than staying and abusing their child or their partner because they never wanted to have kids so they resents their partner and their kids.

People that decide to hate on dead beat parents, I think "so they would rather have the kid be abused then by them? Okay." Some twisted logic there. :roll:


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01 Feb 2021, 2:00 pm

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Are children a "punishment for sex?" No, I don't think so. Well, maybe if your child is the spawn of Satan. That not only a punishment for the patents, but for the whole world.

To a pedophobic like me and an autistic female friend all children are spawns from hell.


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01 Feb 2021, 2:01 pm

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... People that decide to hate on dead beat parents, I think "so they would rather have the kid be abused then by them? Okay." Some twisted logic there.
To me, a "Deadbeat Parent" is one who abdicates his or her responsibilities for his or her child's welfare -- someone who simply stops acting like a parent.

Which is worse: abuse or abandonment?  Both can result in the child's death (Right-to-Life people: Take Note!).

I have wondered what my life would have been like if I had been put up for adoption, and I even wrote a story about a person who was abandoned at birth (it is making the rounds of publishers); and while I am grateful that my mother "chose life" (she did not have much of a choice back then, anyway), I still feel some sense of grief that my mother was in a situation where she had to make that choice.  May her soul rest in peace.



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01 Feb 2021, 2:06 pm

Fnord wrote:
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... People that decide to hate on dead beat parents, I think "so they would rather have the kid be abused then by them? Okay." Some twisted logic there.
To me, a "Deadbeat Parent" is one who abdicates his or her responsibilities for his or her child's welfare -- someone who simply stops acting like a parent.

Which is worse: abuse or abandonment?  Both can result in the child's death (Right-to-Life people: Take Note!).

I have wondered what my life would have been like if I had been put up for adoption, and I even wrote a story about a person who was abandoned at birth (it is making the rounds of publishers); and while I am grateful that my mother "chose life" (she did not have much of a choice back then, anyway), I still feel some sense of grief that my mother was in a situation where she had to make that choice.  May her soul rest in peace.



You put the baby up for an adoption or if your partner wanted to have the baby and you didn't want one, you have the option to walk away.

I will never understand people who say they were forced to have a baby. What do they mean by forced? What stopped them from putting their baby up for an adoption? I notice those who say this are the narcissist ones because it was all about their self image and ego and their appearance. And another option is don't mention you have once made a child if you are so afraid of getting judgement. Just because you put sperm into an egg or birthed a child does not make you a parent.


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01 Feb 2021, 2:12 pm

People throughout history have been forced to have children through abuse and there to afraid to do anything. It happens a lot just like in most countries there is forced marriages of underage children which leads to being forced to have children later on. So you can be forced.