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22 Mar 2021, 4:20 am

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People from Yorkshire are supposed to be hard-working farmer types or sheep-shearers.


Q. how do you know someone is from Yorkshire?
A. because they won't stop telling you!

Interesting you say Yorkshire folk are farmer types or sheep shearers. That is not the stereotype I see of Yorkshire at all from being here in the UK!



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22 Mar 2021, 4:28 am

I like streotypes, I find them fascinating. As long as they don't come from a mean place and are just the image someone has of a people or nation.

There is usually something behind the stereotype, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, but its interesting where it originates from. People can also often have 2 different stereotypes depending where they are in the world



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22 Mar 2021, 4:29 am

Cornwall, Yorkshire & Liverpool are the 3 parts of England where the people from them seem to identify much more strongly with those regions than they do the nation, and will outwardly tell everyone so.



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22 Mar 2021, 5:01 am

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Cornwall, Yorkshire & Liverpool are the 3 parts of England where the people from them seem to identify much more strongly with those regions than they do the nation, and will outwardly tell everyone so.


Cornwall folks are part of the Celtic fringe. Holdouts of the Britons who populated the island before the Anglosaxons arrived, and even had their own language at one time until relatively recently.

Liverpool folks are not really English, but are mostly really Irishmen. Except for George, the Beatles (who are actually good sample of the working class of their city) were all descended from relatively recent refugees from the potato famine.

I dont know whats up with the Yorkshire folks though.



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22 Mar 2021, 5:08 am

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The Anglo Saxon English conquered the world, and oppressed everyone. Near (the Scots, the Welsh, the Irish), and far (Americans, Egyptians, Indian subcontinent folks, Africans).

But the Anglo Saxons themselves were conquered in 1066 by the Normans. And even today most of Britain's aristocracy and upper class is of Norman descent.

So the A/S oppressed the world, but the Normans are "the oppressors of the oppressors".

So ... the Anglosaxons were considered safe to lampoon. But maybe we all should be sensitive to Anglosaxons, and ...all start having fun hating on the Normans for a change! :D


Technically the language of the Anglo-Saxons was north western germanic.
The ancestors of the normans were north-western germanic (not French)
Old English is north-western germanic
English is classified as a north-western germanic language

Nothings changed



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22 Mar 2021, 5:10 am

Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?



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22 Mar 2021, 5:21 am

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Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?


nope. not sure how anyone could be offended at that tbh. Our cuisine gets a hard time from people, but I think it is unfair tbh. We have a real mix of old fashioned British stuff (shepherds pie etc) and multicultural stuff from all over the world

People who knock British food should try a a sunday roast in a country pub. ::chefs kiss::



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22 Mar 2021, 5:41 am

Biscuitman wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?


nope. not sure how anyone could be offended at that tbh. Our cuisine gets a hard time from people, but I think it is unfair tbh. We have a real mix of old fashioned British stuff (shepherds pie etc) and multicultural stuff from all over the world

People who knock British food should try a a sunday roast in a country pub. ::chefs kiss::


Yeah, that's what I figured, if you live in a big city then I guess it's multicultural like everywhere else.

So the old days of a
Mon - Thurs meat and two veg + glass of wine
Frid - fish n Chips + a lager - watch the football and drink a few more
Sat - shepards pie + guiness
Sun - pot roast and potatoes washed down with an ale

Makes me feel nostalgic



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22 Mar 2021, 5:44 am

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Biscuitman wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?


nope. not sure how anyone could be offended at that tbh. Our cuisine gets a hard time from people, but I think it is unfair tbh. We have a real mix of old fashioned British stuff (shepherds pie etc) and multicultural stuff from all over the world

People who knock British food should try a a sunday roast in a country pub. ::chefs kiss::


Yeah, that's what I figured, if you live in a big city then I guess it's multicultural like everywhere else.

So the old days of a
Mon - Thurs meat and two veg + glass of wine
Frid - fish n Chips + a lager - watch the football and drink a few more
Sat - shepards pie + guiness
Sun - pot roast and potatoes washed down with an ale

Makes me feel nostalgic


I reckon there is still probably quite a high % of people here who do live roughly by that kind of food schedule. F&C could be swapped for Indian or Chinese these days. And football isn't on Fridays! (though during covid it is, which seems weird and I am still not used to it)



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22 Mar 2021, 6:07 am

Biscuitman wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?


nope. not sure how anyone could be offended at that tbh. Our cuisine gets a hard time from people, but I think it is unfair tbh. We have a real mix of old fashioned British stuff (shepherds pie etc) and multicultural stuff from all over the world

People who knock British food should try a a sunday roast in a country pub. ::chefs kiss::


Yeah, that's what I figured, if you live in a big city then I guess it's multicultural like everywhere else.

So the old days of a
Mon - Thurs meat and two veg + glass of wine
Frid - fish n Chips + a lager - watch the football and drink a few more
Sat - shepards pie + guiness
Sun - pot roast and potatoes washed down with an ale

Makes me feel nostalgic


I reckon there is still probably quite a high % of people here who do live roughly by that kind of food schedule. F&C could be swapped for Indian or Chinese these days. And football isn't on Fridays! (though during covid it is, which seems weird and I am still not used to it)


My bad, we have Australian rules football - on Fridays after work.



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22 Mar 2021, 6:15 am

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Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?

No but Guinness is Irish I think.
Our stereotype of Australian food is that you just have BBQs all the time. I've never had black pudding or Guinness but I do love the chance to have a BBQ as soon as we get any nice weather!


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22 Mar 2021, 6:38 am

my stereotype of Australians is that they start every sentence with 'ah look mate...' :lol:



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22 Mar 2021, 6:49 am

I like fish and chips....especially in the type of places where they used to use newspaper.

They are pretty good in those chicken takeaway places too, usually run by folks of Middle Eastern descent.

It sucks that restaurants charge for you to eat in over in the UK.



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22 Mar 2021, 6:52 am

Yorkshire folk are supposed to be blunt....yet they’d give you the shirt off their backs.



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22 Mar 2021, 7:33 am

OutsideView wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Do you Brits find it offensive when I think of English cuisine then black pudding and guinness come to mind?

No but Guinness is Irish I think.


You're correct.



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22 Mar 2021, 7:47 am

Native British people are not nor,ally offended by any stereotypes as they themselves rather think that it is funny, and this I can say about most of mainland Britain.

The ones who are easily offended tend to be the people who have come into Britain from elsewhere who consider themselves British because they have lived here for a good while, but not long enough to realize that the British (Those of us who "Get" what being British is) will laugh at themselves as it is who we are and how we naturally react.

Admittedly there are those who do not laugh at themselves because they are either full of self induced pride or they are bitter with unforgiveness, but they do not represent what being British is all about.

Remember that in most parts of the UK, if people joke about you in a harmless way it is their way of accepting you as a friend.

Parts of the UK do have different humour then others. The very Welsh parts of Wales which are the tough farming types tend to not laugh at some things that most of us would find funny, but if they hear about someone who has lost money or had an unfortunate event in an amusing way they will be chuckling about it for days! (Their humour differs a little from others because they have had to endure a tough life where their work becomes their life with 14 to 18 hour working days 7 days a week and may not see a day off for a month or two, so if they are out and about it will be to get supplies etc rather then to relax. Their work may not seem too intense to some but it is a continual work that is constantly there so they work exhausted so their humour tends to reflect this).

But apart from a few exceptions, most of us in Britain would laugh with you and certainly would not be offended.

The big problem is about the UK is that with the TV news channels, they have policies to promote ethnic diversity where many of the people employed have not lived in the UK long enough to adopt the UK ways into their character (As this takes a good few generations to do) and so we get the oppinions of those who are easily offended by anything that slightly questions their "Britishness" and they are the ones with agendas to push through laws by raising awareness of certain aspects they see as issues, and it in no way reflects what most of the British people are like as a whole and this is sad because it is destroying the very Character of Britain and creating an uncaring and callous atmosphere which is why so many peoples now live their lives in rebellion to the government and are not supportive where in the past governments had the upmost support here in the UK.
It has nothing to do with accepting ethnic minorities into the British culture as Britain always has had many different races living here.
It is the fault of pushing an agenda that does not represent the majority of the British people.
A classic example of this has been in the news lately regarding covid where they have been making news reports saying that unfortunately one will not be able to take ones holidays abroad this summer and isn't it terrible we are not going to be able to do that. They are soo out of touch with how the average person in Britain lives. I am average. I have never been abroad. In the area where I live only the wealthier people will go on holidays abroad, and most of us won't even have holidays other then day trips. The news media represent themselves and are soo out of touch with how most of us live here in the UK.
Many have passports but passports do not mean one uses them to go abroad, as these days people are forced to get a passport as a proof of identification or a drivers licence. That may have only used it once to go somewhere just to have the rare experience but are certainly could not regularly go abroad. The passport itself cost as much as they could afford to spend on a holiday these days.
The problem is that the media, and the government are formed of wealthy people. People can't stand as MP's unless they are currently doing ok for themselves which creates a scinario where some of them are already out of touch with how their constituents live. It is no ones fault. It is just the way things are. (And I realize that MP's do amazing work helping those with needs, but there is a difference of understanding between a person who sees those who struggle, and a person who is in the position of struggling, and unfortunately our laws and rules are based and made by those (In good will) who really don't know what it is like to live an average or below average lifestyle.

So do not look to what our press is saying or trying to portray about British people being easily offended by jokes being made about them, as most people in the UK will laugh with you and as a sign of effection as they get to know you, will have fun by noticing things about your character too!

After all. It is the British way!