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26 Jun 2022, 11:11 pm

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I wonder how many of them are in arrears for child support, or have abused and neglected their own kids?


The pedophiles being covered up would all be Freemasons. That's why its a point of attack. Karen Brewer is trying to explain the tool of abuse to induce dissociation identity disorder and other personality changes. This is a major part of the conspiracy. Don't believe? Well lets just #ExposeThe28 and see what we find.

Karen Brewer Why Prominent Silence
Senator Bill Heffernan
Canberra Instructing the Governor-General
Aust PM confronted
telegram "Bush Telegraph with Karen Brewer"
#ExposeThe28



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26 Jun 2022, 11:13 pm

I'm not talking about conspiracies.
I'm not interested in conspiracies.
I'm asking a genuine question based on lived experience.


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26 Jun 2022, 11:34 pm

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IsabellaLinton wrote:
I wonder how many of them are in arrears for child support, or have abused and neglected their own kids?


The pedophiles being covered up would all be Freemasons. That's why its a point of attack. Karen Brewer is trying to explain the tool of abuse to induce dissociation identity disorder and other personality changes. This is a major part of the conspiracy. Don't believe? Well lets just #ExposeThe28 and see what we find.

Karen Brewer Why Prominent Silence
Senator Bill Heffernan
Canberra Instructing the Governor-General
Aust PM confronted
telegram "Bush Telegraph with Karen Brewer"
#ExposeThe28


Why is every single piece of “evidence” you use just a weird video which only the most credulous would take seriously?

Why are there no sensible peer-reviewed articles to support your claims?

(Hint: It’s because there is no valid evidence.)



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26 Jun 2022, 11:37 pm

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I wonder how many of them are in arrears for child support, or have abused and neglected their own kids?


Probably many have abused their kids since corporal punishment is seen as the gold standard by lots of them.



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27 Jun 2022, 1:57 am

It's really creepy the way republicans keep peddling this stuff
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... dren-abuse



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27 Jun 2022, 3:09 am

flamingshorts wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I wonder how many of them are in arrears for child support, or have abused and neglected their own kids?


The pedophiles being covered up would all be Freemasons. That's why its a point of attack. Karen Brewer is trying to explain the tool of abuse to induce dissociation identity disorder and other personality changes. This is a major part of the conspiracy. Don't believe? Well lets just #ExposeThe28 and see what we find.

Karen Brewer Why Prominent Silence
Senator Bill Heffernan
Canberra Instructing the Governor-General
Aust PM confronted
telegram "Bush Telegraph with Karen Brewer"
#ExposeThe28


Jesus flamingshorts! you might be onto something

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27 Jun 2022, 8:30 am

It is not that the Billy Joel video itself is stupid, but that using a music or YouTube video to prove a false belief simply is not very bright.

Never let a (YouTube) video do your thinking for you.



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27 Jun 2022, 10:33 am

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There is clearly a long term plan.

Really? Most mega-corporations these days are interested primarily in maximizing the next quarter's profits, not in any longterm plan.

Have you ever worked for the government or for any company that employed more than about 20 people? I suspect not, or at least not for very long. To almost anyone who has worked, for any length of time, for any entity that employed more than about 20 people, it would be obvious why conspiracy theories are not necessary to explain the vast majority of things that can go wrong within a group of people. Real-life conspiracies do happen, but they are the exception, not the rule.

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Elites have been studying mass manipulation for a long time.

Of course they have. But the elites also are not totally unified, fortunately, nor (at least in countries with an at least semi-democratic structure) have they attained total control over the masses of people.

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Some say it is part of a long term totalitarian takeover with mass extermination/depopulation as its goal.

Back in the 1970's and 1980's, lots of people -- not just elites -- were very worried about overpopulation. Since then it has become clear that the combination of sufficient technological development, plus women's rights, plus government programs like Social Security, automatically result in most people not wanting to have lots of kids.

So the most important key to getting the world's population growth under control would be worldwide prosperity. Now that we know the solution, there is much less panic about population growth, and no more need for totalitarian measures (like China's former one-child policy) to stop population growth.

Please keep in mind that overpopulation hurts everyone, especially poor people, not just -- or primarily -- elites.

When I was growing up, it was commonly said that one third of the world's population was on the brink of starvation. Thanks to advances in agricultural technology, the fraction of the world's population on the brink of starvation is now much smaller. It would be best for all of us if the world's population could be fully stabilized before it reaches the maximum number of people who can be supported by today's agricultural technology in today's climate.

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Many of the tactics of totalitarians of 20th century are in play. Here is a small booklet BRAINWASH Alan Gourley

It starts off by saying, "The challenge: I offer $10,000 to the first person who can disprove (or show to be in serious error) my thesis that there is an elite of "Mafia style families", whose activities can be reasonably described as criminal, actively exploiting humanity and planning dictatorial world government. "

Of course there exist "Mafia style families." But there isn't just ONE "Mafia-style family" that has controlled the world for millennia. There have been many "Mafia style families," whose fortunes rise and fall.

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Look up the 45 rules for communism.

The alleged 45 "Communist goals," as entered in the U.S. Congressional Record on January 10, 1963, are identified as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen, about whom see this Wikipedia article. Skousen was an extreme right winger, and I don't consider his list of 45 alleged "Communist goals" to be a credible source. For example, most Communists were not defending gay rights back in the 1950's and 1960's.

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Some say the goal isn't communism or fascism but technocracy and transhumanism.

There are indeed a lot of dangers associated with "transhumanism". The result, for humans, could be anything from total liberation to total tyranny, depending on the nature of the machines. But technological progress is hard to predict. Given my own computer science background, it seems to me that the "singularity" probably won't be happening anywhere near as soon as some people believe.

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Trans movement is part of a plan for the slaves to have only one gender.

You obviously are unfamiliar with the history of the LGBTQ+ rights movement. Please learn about it, from sources other than grand conspiracy ideologists.

flamingshorts wrote:
The Australian govt signed a treaty on the international standardization of history in 1939. That was just one detail in the planning of this operation. There is social conditioning everywhere. Eg sport is used to make people accept restrictions on free speech.

The cult of celebrity has cast a spell. Here is proof Billy Joel - We didnt start the fire. (All people/events connected to Freemasonry.

I don't see any proof of anything here, just a bunch of historical images. What exactly are you trying to prove, and how?

Some of the images show people making various hand gestures. Are you alleging that these hand gestures prove that these people are all Freemasons?

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Even WWI and WWII were just carefully organized satanic sacrifices by the satanic elite.)

Good grief! Please study some actual, real history of WWI and WWII.

flamingshorts wrote:
All occultists/illuminati/freemason. All these words just mean satanism.

No, they don't -- and even Satanism generally doesn't mean what you think it means, either. Please learn more about these topics, too, from sources other than conspiracy theorists.

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What's this? More alleged evil significance of celebrity hand gestures?

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Some celebrities have been murdered over the years for trying to tell people eg Chester Bennington, Peter Allen, Isaac Kappy.

Looking up all these people in Wikipedia:

Chester Bennington is said to have committed suicide by hanging. Of course one can speculate that almost any suicide was really murder by an unknown assailant, but do you have any actual evidence of this?

Peter Allen is said to have died at Mercy Hospital, San Diego, on 18 June 1992, from an AIDS-related throat cancer. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Isaac Kappy is said to have committed suicide by jumping off a bridge. Do you have evidence that someone pushed him?


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Jesus flamingshorts! . . .
I think you just coined a new curse-phrase -- "Jesus' flamin' shorts!"



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You See Now This Has Nothing to Do With the Hate
of Conservative; As The 'Grand Old Party of Tradition'

No Longer Supports The Safety That Comes With Tradition;

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Protect in A Most Deadly Delta Part of a Pandemic, They Required Their

Workers to Social Distance
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Shootings, Dick's Sporting Good's

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in Autonomy over Our Own God Damned Bodies Free For The

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of Plant And Animal Species Have Been Killed By The Deadly Hand

of Human So-called kind This Way, in Just A Very Few Centuries with
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27 Jun 2022, 11:18 am

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Positions that were even considered normal 15-20 years ago are now taboo and called "far-right". Especially since Trump was elected I saw a lot of members on here blaming Trump and seeing him as a monster and generally saying things like "Why are these right-wingers/Christians/conservatives so dumb", ad nauseum, like entire threads.

I feel like this place is just another social and political echo-chamber. I don't know any of those on the right that still post here. The key to genuine discussion is to be open-minded and humble at your adversary's viewpoints, not attack them and automatically dismiss them as wrong or bigoted. Why can't there be constructive discussion about any position considered on the right?

One of the reasons why many of us react strongly against right wing views is that many of us would be directly, personally harmed by right wing policies.

For example, autistic people are disproportionately LGBTQ+, and would thus be directly, personally harmed by anti-LGBTQ+ policies.

Also, many autistic people receive government benefits, and would thus be directly, personally harmed by the removal of said benefits.


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27 Jun 2022, 11:30 am

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One of the reasons why many of us react strongly against right wing views is that many of us would be directly, personally harmed by right wing policies. . .
Another example is that my wife and I are in a "mixed-race" marriage, and Senator Mike Braun (R) has said that legalizing mixed marriages was a "mistake" (even though he has backpedaled on this).

There are Republicans who want to abolish abortion, civil liberties, contraception, gun-control laws, mixed-race marriages, and same-sex marriages; and enforce anti-blasphemy laws, Christian church attendance, Christian indoctrination in public schools, and racial segregation.  Some of these people I know personally.



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27 Jun 2022, 11:41 am

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There are Republicans who want to abolish abortion, civil liberties, contraception, gun-control laws, mixed-race marriages, and same-sex marriages; and enforce anti-blasphemy laws, Christian church attendance, Christian indoctrination in public schools, and racial segregation.  Some of these people I know personally.[/color]


I know some of them personally, too.

People often underestimate how many of them there are and how much political power they wield.



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Fnord wrote:
There are Republicans who want to abolish abortion, civil liberties, contraception, gun-control laws, mixed-race marriages, and same-sex marriages; and enforce anti-blasphemy laws, Christian church attendance, Christian indoctrination in public schools, and racial segregation.  Some of these people I know personally.
I know some of them personally, too.  People often underestimate how many of them there are and how much political power they wield.
Individually, their "clout" extends only as far as their fists.  Collectively, they represent voting blocs, PACs, and armed cohorts whose aims and actions include the disruption of legal voting processes and peaceful transitions of power.



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Aspies isolated from reality have a lot of pie-in-sky ideas about the world. Dreaming is good, but they are certain to clash with the coarse realists. They falsely interpret conservative reality as "right leaning".

Reality is not "conservative." In reality, a lot of things have changed within my lifetime. Some changes have been for the better, others for the worse.


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27 Jun 2022, 11:59 am

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One of the reasons why many of us react strongly against right wing views is that many of us would be directly, personally harmed by right wing policies.

For example, autistic people are disproportionately LGBTQ+, and would thus be directly, personally harmed by anti-LGBTQ+ policies.

Also, many autistic people receive government benefits, and would thus be directly, personally harmed by the removal of said benefits.

OTOH there are people on this site who are attracted to right-wing views out of a feeling of powerlessness. These are often the less articulate members and there has been a tendency to pile on those people whereas perhaps they really deserve our sympathy. I have probably been complicit in some of those pile-ons Lord knows I'm not a very nice person. There are also a couple of people (typically not Americans) who espouse these views with a possible intention of stirring up the hornets nest but those people can sealion till the cows come home anyway, I don't much worry about them.


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