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What is your religious belief?
Christian 49%  49%  [ 21 ]
Atheist 28%  28%  [ 12 ]
Other 23%  23%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 43

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03 Sep 2023, 3:02 pm

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Joseph Smith was himself a Freemason.

In fact he had a special whistle Freemasons were supposed to blow to summon other Freemasons if they are in danger. And he blew it once when mobs were attacking he and his flock once.


^ Didn't Joseph Smith die from a mob breaking into the prison where Joseph Smith was being held in, in 1844? Or are you referring to a different mob attack?


Probably thats it.



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03 Sep 2023, 3:18 pm

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As TwilightPrincess has said, the term Christian is an umbrella term for any Christian denomination, including Catholicism & Protestantism.
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Thats my point.

Thats what is SUPPOSED to mean obviously- all Christians are "Christians". But in modern America its often used to mean only Protestant Evangelical.


And their are Catholics and Orthodox, who think Protestants are going to burn.

The reality is, that their is, and can only be, one Church, because there is only one Christ, but that Church is comprised of everyone who belongs to Jesus whatever worldly church organisations they are members of.

That's why we are called Christians. We follow Christ.

Anglican, Lutheran, Catholic, Orthodox, these are all groups of Christians who got distracted by disputes, I am a Christian, because I'm saved by Jesus Christ of Nazareth all glory to his holy name.

It wasn't the pope or the patriach who shed his blood for me, it was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.


This is a good post.

Non Christians, or people who are critical of Christianity, sometimes seem to believe that because the details of the religions and beliefs of different Christians are fallible, then all of Christianity must then be wrong, or fake, or whatever.

From a Christian POV, believing there was a Jesus Christ and that he is the saviour of mankind is a key tenet of belief and something which binds together Christians of different denominations in common belief.



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03 Sep 2023, 3:28 pm

I was going by analogy to Islam. The Sunnies and the Shiites hate each other and fight each other. But there is a sect called the Druze who ID themselves as "Muslim" whom both Shiites and Sunnies agree are SO far out in their theology that they arent even Muslim, and whom both Shiites and Sunnies hate even more than they hate each other.

Similarly Protestants and Catholics have a history of conflict and even of bloody wars of genocide between them in Europe. But there are some "Christian" sects (like both the Mormons, and the Jehovah's Witnesses) who are SO unorthodox that they are disowned as "not Christian" by both Protestants and Catholics alike.

But yes the more mainstream sects of Christianity disown each other. I stumbled upon a Catholic website and on it's long list of heresies is "Protestantism".

And some Orthodox Jews regard both Conservative and Reform Jews as "Goyim" (non Jews).



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03 Sep 2023, 3:30 pm

Jehovah's Witnesses think they are the only true Christians.

It's all so silly and gets extremely petty depending on the specific denomination of Christianity.


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03 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm

The best sermon I ever heard was about how the Devil created Doritos because he wants us to all be unhealthy.


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03 Sep 2023, 5:58 pm

Now I feel compelled to buy Doritos.


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03 Sep 2023, 6:01 pm

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The best sermon I ever heard was about how the Devil created Doritos because he wants us to all be unhealthy.


This sounds like a joke. Was the person doing the sermon an American by any chance? :lol:



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03 Sep 2023, 6:19 pm

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Misslizard wrote:
The best sermon I ever heard was about how the Devil created Doritos because he wants us to all be unhealthy.


This sounds like a joke. Was the person doing the sermon an American by any chance? :lol:

Yes ,Worldwide Church of God.He was serious.Some Churches have dietary restrictions.They didn’t eat any of the forbidden OT foods and tried to promote healthy eating since your body belongs to God ,so you shouldn’t pollute it.They allowed drinking in moderation.No Christmas or Halloween.Those are pagan.
Seventh Day Adventist are vegetarian.I attended an Adventist school one year and they were very nice people.Their prophet is a woman, Ellen G White ,if I remember right.The only school I went to that had no bullies.
The Mormons also believe that God has a wife.He won’t reveal her name because we would blaspheme her .
And then there are Holiness Churches where you handle snakes.Never been to one of those.I do my own snake handling in the yard.
The Witnesses have stopped going door to door here and now send handwritten notes.


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03 Sep 2023, 6:34 pm

Yes ... 8O


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03 Sep 2023, 6:50 pm

I'm Catholic, but hate it whenever any fellow Catholic tells me to behave
like any stereotype associated with being Catholic. :roll:


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03 Sep 2023, 7:23 pm

Misslizard wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
The best sermon I ever heard was about how the Devil created Doritos because he wants us to all be unhealthy.


This sounds like a joke. Was the person doing the sermon an American by any chance? :lol:

Yes ,Worldwide Church of God.He was serious.Some Churches have dietary restrictions.They didn’t eat any of the forbidden OT foods and tried to promote healthy eating since your body belongs to God ,so you shouldn’t pollute it.They allowed drinking in moderation.No Christmas or Halloween.Those are pagan.
Seventh Day Adventist are vegetarian.I attended an Adventist school one year and they were very nice people.Their prophet is a woman, Ellen G White ,if I remember right.The only school I went to that had no bullies.
The Mormons also believe that God has a wife.He won’t reveal her name because we would blaspheme her .
And then there are Holiness Churches where you handle snakes.Never been to one of those.I do my own snake handling in the yard.
The Witnesses have stopped going door to door here and now send handwritten notes.


Ah right. There seems to be a complex creativity going on in regards to what people can or can't do as part of being Christian, within the "worldwide church of God".

Snakes terrify me. :o



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03 Sep 2023, 7:32 pm

^I have a pet one named Ju Ju.
It’s wuggly.


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03 Sep 2023, 8:08 pm

Misslizard wrote:
The best sermon I ever heard was about how the Devil created Doritos because he wants us to all be unhealthy.

If there had been Doritos in the Garden of Eden, maybe Adam and Eve wouldn't have sinned.


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03 Sep 2023, 9:18 pm

Yes, I am Christian.


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03 Sep 2023, 9:19 pm

Christians are leading in the poll!

*cue triumphant music*



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03 Sep 2023, 9:20 pm

More people aren't Christian than are, though.


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