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25 Aug 2007, 4:43 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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Feelings are irrelevant.

Feelings are at the core of how humans perceive reality.

So, are feelings based on how we see things, or are how we see things based on our feelings? Or both?

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Both. Feelings are part of what makes people sane humans.

You percieve something based on how you view it, how you feel, how you feel about it either by prejudice, curiousity, or experience. You react based on your feelings. Your feelings influence others' actions. The bond between external stimuli and internal feelings is symbiotic.

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25 Aug 2007, 4:44 pm

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Yes I have considered or most likely I have wondered sometimes if there is actually a powerful being that take care of us and protect us, which sounds very nice, but I make that question, what if it is and what if it's not like that? I am actually in the middle, I am not sure about that.

I take some things into my mind while trying to analize this, for example, why a unique God has a human form, and why is he male? First, it sounds reasonable to me that only one God in a monotheism religion, should have a human form. Second, it had to be male, because of the patriarchal system from the ancient society that adopted judiasm, it favors men over women, so obviously God should have to be a male figure.

Thinking about that stuff is what made me have doubts.

It would be interesting to read that version of the Bible, although the issue is not just about the miracles, is about the social rules and norms back then, as you can see how the gender roles where back then, and how things related to sexuality was, again, due to lack of knowledge, and some of those things are still believed today just because it says in the Bible, although not everyone has the same interpretation.

Interpretation that's another issue.

As a note it says about the image of God, Gen 1:27 "And God made man in his image, in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them." Men and Women are equally made in God's image, it's more of a type of soul than anything else. Historically God has revealed himself to be male, but it doesn't mean anything that He's a he. It's a 1 outta 2 chance there.

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25 Aug 2007, 4:48 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Flagg wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Feelings are irrelevant.

Feelings are at the core of how humans perceive reality.

So, are feelings based on how we see things, or are how we see things based on our feelings? Or both?

Yes, I believe feelings have a lot to do with it.
Religion is about feelings, few people need something to hold on to, something to make their lives have a meaning, to feel happy, to believe their problems will go away if they give their heart to God and things like that, all of this is based on hope, desire, sadness, happiness, fear of dying, etc. It is clearly this is about feelings or emotions.

I think if humans beings were completely logical and completely emotionless, no one would need to believe in any deity and being part of a religion at all.

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25 Aug 2007, 4:49 pm

Flagg wrote:

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Oh so if we set up a thread attacking God you would respect us for doing it and not intervene.

I happens in the whole rest of Wrong Planet, you might not have personally, but it happens. What irritates you people so much about one group of people wanting one thread to themselves. Forget that I'm not a MOD, you people are showing a complete lack of RESPECT for me and my people.

Yeah, like the Bible and the Koran dont imply that all us Atheists are going to hell... How uninsulting. You seem to think insulting and lack of respect is acceptable within a religion.

Wrong Thread for you. Go!

well, I have to agree with you here. Hadron, you didn't come up with good arguments actually.

Get the hell outta here you friggin atheist, lol

You would agree with almost any bash of me. And why on earth would I bother wasting my good arguements?

Because you respect the person your debating?

I rarely respect who I am debating, unless they play to a high level.

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25 Aug 2007, 4:51 pm

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I rarely respect who I am debating, unless they play to a high level.

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25 Aug 2007, 4:51 pm

Hadron wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Hadron wrote:

greenblue wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Hadron wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Hadron wrote:

Oh so if we set up a thread attacking God you would respect us for doing it and not intervene.

Yeah, like the Bible and the Koran dont imply that all us Atheists are going to hell... How uninsulting. You seem to think insulting and lack of respect is acceptable within a religion.

Wrong Thread for you. Go!

well, I have to agree with you here. Hadron, you didn't come up with good arguments actually.

Get the hell outta here you friggin atheist, lol

You would agree with almost any bash of me. And why on earth would I bother wasting my good arguements?

Because you respect the person your debating?

I rarely respect who I am debating, unless they play to a high level.

Never good form. It makes look bad and undermines your arguments.

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25 Aug 2007, 5:16 pm

Flagg wrote:

Hadron wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Hadron wrote:

greenblue wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Hadron wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Hadron wrote:

Oh so if we set up a thread attacking God you would respect us for doing it and not intervene.

Yeah, like the Bible and the Koran dont imply that all us Atheists are going to hell... How uninsulting. You seem to think insulting and lack of respect is acceptable within a religion.

Wrong Thread for you. Go!

well, I have to agree with you here. Hadron, you didn't come up with good arguments actually.

Get the hell outta here you friggin atheist, lol

You would agree with almost any bash of me. And why on earth would I bother wasting my good arguements?

Because you respect the person your debating?

I rarely respect who I am debating, unless they play to a high level.

Never good form. It makes look bad and undermines your arguments.

Good job I dont care too much for appearences. Asides, if I put a good arguement into such a confrontationally set up thread I would be wasting my time typing it out.

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25 Aug 2007, 5:25 pm

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Good job I dont care too much for appearences. Asides, if I put a good arguement into such a confrontationally set up thread I would be wasting my time typing it out.

Aren't you already wasting your time anyway?

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25 Aug 2007, 5:49 pm

greenblue wrote:

Hadron wrote:

Good job I dont care too much for appearences. Asides, if I put a good arguement into such a confrontationally set up thread I would be wasting my time typing it out.

Aren't you already wasting your time anyway?

No, I am drunk and sobering up. So not at all.

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25 Aug 2007, 6:14 pm

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Hmm, intresting pictures. Reminds me off the good old RE days.

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25 Aug 2007, 7:36 pm

I thought a lightning bolt would strike on him, lol

Aren't Adam and Eve suppose to be naked?

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25 Aug 2007, 7:47 pm

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I thought a lightning bolt would strike on him, lol

Some people have short lives and some have long, but they all have a chance to know God before they're taken. Except for aborted babies though, but even they have no reason to complain about their time in the womb, just that some human hand destroyed them.

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Aren't Adam and Eve suppose to be naked?

Not for all their life, seeing as Seth was born when Adam was 130 and he lived for 930 years, I would say most of his life he and Eve wore clothes. (Genesis 3:21 BBE) And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife coats of skins for their clothing.

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25 Aug 2007, 8:52 pm

Hadron wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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Oh so if we set up a thread attacking God you would respect us for doing it and not intervene.

Yeah, like the Bible and the Koran dont imply that all us Atheists are going to hell... How uninsulting. You seem to think insulting and lack of respect is acceptable within a religion.

Truth is truth. That's the business we're in.

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25 Aug 2007, 8:56 pm

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Truth is truth. That's the business we're in.

scientists are in the business of truth.

those who peddle religion are in the business of lies and keeping the masses ignorant and docile.

good little sheep that the shepherd can bring in for the fleecing.

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25 Aug 2007, 9:04 pm

Flagg wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Feelings are irrelevant.

Feelings are at the core of how humans perceive reality.

They can know nothing deeper? I guess you reject the human soul, then? Well shoot, no WONDER you don't believe...

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