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06 Feb 2025, 2:04 am

All I know is that I'm tired of settlers who smell like stale Kraft Dinner and boiled pennies telling me I should hate people because they smell like curry instead.

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06 Feb 2025, 2:33 am

I stopped listening to the boiled penny/Kraft dinner set in highschool.

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06 Feb 2025, 2:48 am

cyberdora wrote:

I stopped listening to the boiled penny/Kraft dinner set in highschool.

I'd expect them to smell more like Vegemite down there.

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06 Feb 2025, 3:07 am

More like roast beef/gravy.

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06 Feb 2025, 3:16 am

cyberdora wrote:

More like roast beef/gravy.

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Canadians eat more than 55 per cent more KD than our American counterparts...
...we purchase more than 1.7 million packages (out of the 7 million sold) per week collectively.

https://eatnorth.com/katelyn-marchyshyn ... t-its-name

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06 Feb 2025, 3:28 am

The two attitudes seem highly related to me. I am hard pressed to think of a reason to be anti immigration that is not rooted in some form of racism.

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06 Feb 2025, 4:35 am

funeralxempire wrote:

cyberdora wrote:

More like roast beef/gravy.

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Canadians eat more than 55 per cent more KD than our American counterparts...
...we purchase more than 1.7 million packages (out of the 7 million sold) per week collectively.

https://eatnorth.com/katelyn-marchyshyn ... t-its-name

Oh! in that case most young Australians have this in their cupboard when they first leave home

https://www.maggi.com.au/product/2-minute-noodles/

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06 Feb 2025, 4:37 am

colliegrace wrote:

The two attitudes seem highly related to me. I am hard pressed to think of a reason to be anti immigration that is not rooted in some form of racism.

I mean, yeah, there are exceptions but as a rule...yep

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06 Feb 2025, 4:57 am

cyberdora wrote:

Oh! in that case most young Australians have this in their cupboard when they first leave home

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https://www.maggi.com.au/product/2-minute-noodles/

We have ramen here too, but KD is more like a national stereotype than merely a poverty food. That's why I compared it to Vegemite in Australia, they're both national stereotypes, both internally and abroad.

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06 Feb 2025, 5:17 am

the vegemite thing is dated, like saying Aussies all eat spam. Once upon a time vegemite on toast for breakfast and spam and eggs were a staple with fish and chips on Fridays and Roast beef on Sundays.

People still eat vegemite (my daughter likes it on toast) but its nowhere near as popular now.

Do all Canadians have maple syrup and pancakes for breakfast?

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06 Feb 2025, 5:53 am

cyberdora wrote:

Do all Canadians have maple syrup and pancakes for breakfast?

No, there won't be room for KD for lunch.

The vegemite thing might be dated, but that's somewhat besides the point. The KD thing would still be a national stereotype even if it becomes outdated at some point. Tropes like that can last as stereotypes even if they've become outdated.

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06 Feb 2025, 6:25 am

colliegrace wrote:

The two attitudes seem highly related to me. I am hard pressed to think of a reason to be anti immigration that is not rooted in some form of racism.

Yeah it's difficult to get my head around too you're probably right to large extent but there must be exceptions to this rule

I asked this question because it's something I'm trying to grapple with in my personal life with someone who I'm quite near to

It's getting to the point where I might have to break contact with them

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06 Feb 2025, 6:28 am

If they just owned the fact that they are racists then I might be able to work with that but it's the hypocrisy I'm struggling with (if hypocrisy is the right word)

It's my dad btw and I've only just found him after 50 years so this isn't an easy thing for me to have on my mind

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06 Feb 2025, 7:16 am

babybird wrote:

If they just owned the fact that they are racists then I might be able to work with that but it's the hypocrisy I'm struggling with (if hypocrisy is the right word)

I think the root of it comes from how way more people acknowledge racism as being morally wrong than actually care to do any uncomfortable self-examination over how it might impact their views or priorities.

I've noticed a lot of people are two faced on these sorts of matters to, they'll be quite decent to other people's faces but hostile when it comes to policies and attitudes. It's good that they're decent face-to-face, but it seems underhanded to be hateful to people behind their backs but smile to their faces.

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07 Feb 2025, 12:37 am

funeralxempire wrote:

Not heard the KD thing before? I imagine the French Canadians wouldn't stoop to eating less than 1 Michelin star cuisine?

Overseas people I've met tend to think Australians eat a lot of BBQ meat. We definitely are a nation of meat eaters.

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07 Feb 2025, 12:51 am

cyberdora wrote:

I imagine the French Canadians wouldn't stoop to eating less than 1 Michelin star cuisine?

I'd associate French Canada with poutine more than haute cuisine.

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