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I believe that beating your wife is wrong. (On a side note, I am also puzzled as to what the liberal and conservative categorizations have to do with this topic.) However, there have always been patriarchal societies; some more brutal, more openly so, or more tacit about it than others. It seems to be a consistent nasty by-product of natural human behavior. It is barbaric, basely driven and wrong, but it is still so, and there will always be cultures that justify and/or accept it. I would rather see a culture try to openly moderate this phenomenon if it is an aspect of it than keep it an unspoken understood. In an environment where it is accepted but not spoken of openly a situation is created where women can be horribly abused or even killed, and people will look the other way because "that sort of thing doesn't happen." A woman in that sort of environment has no recourse because she will be the one blamed and further victimized by her own culture for bringing something out into the open that is taboo. As callous as this sounds, it is unlikely that "wife beating" within this culture would be categorized as unacceptable any time soon; at least they are trying to moderate and put a cap on a barbaric aspect of it.

True warriors defer to the mothers.

A man who raises his fist against his own is not much of a man.

A man who fails to protect women or children is not much of a man.

Most men know these things.

peace j

Considering how mankind has been behaving lately in in history I am not all that enthralled to be a man. Bonobos can be interesting.

Bonobo's rock!

Have you read 'The Demonic Ape' [title may be slightly off it has been a while]?

There is nothing wrong with being male just how you choose to express it's urges.

peace j

Here are a few of the contradictions:

Should we kill?
Ex. 20:13 Thou shalt not commit murder.
Ex. 32:27 Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, put every man his sword by his side...and slay every man his brother...companion..neighbor.(See also 1 Sam. 6:19; 15:2,3; Num. 15:36)

Should we tell lies?
Ex. 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness.(Prov. 12:22; Rev. 21:8 )
1 Kings 22:23 The Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. (II Thess. 2:11; Josh. 2:4-6 with James 2:25)

Should we steal?
Ex. 20:15 Thou shalt not steal. (Lev. 19:13)
Ex. 3:22. And ye shall spoil the Egyptians. (Ex. 12:35-36; Luke 19:29-33)

Shall we keep the Sabbath?
Ex. 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. (Ex. 31:15; Num. 15:32,36)
Is. 1:13 The new moons and the Sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity. (John 5:16; Matt. 12:1-5)


Shall we make Graven images?
Ex. 20:4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven...earth...water. (Lev. 26:1)
EX. 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them.

Are we "saved" through works?
Eph. 2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith...not of works. (Rom. 3:20, 28; Gal. 2:16)
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(Matt. 19:16-21)


Should good works be seen?
Matt. 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works. (I Peter 2:12)
Matt. 6:1-4 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them...that thine alms may be in secret. (Matt. 23:5)


Should we own slaves?
Lev. 25:45-46 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy...and they shall be your posession...they shall be your bondmen forever. (Gen. 9:25; Ex. 21:2,7; Joel 3:8; Luke 12:47; Col. 3:22)
Is. 58:6 Undo the heavy burdens...break every yoke. (Matt. 23:10)


Does God change his mind?
Mal. 3:6. For I am the Lord; I change not. Num. 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. (Ezek. 24:14; James 1:17)
Ex. 32:14. And the Lord repented of the evil which he had thought to do unto his people. (Gen. 6:6; Jonah 3:10; Sam. 2:30-31; II Kings 20:1-6; Num. 16:20-35)


Are we punished for our parent's sins?
Ex. 20:5 For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generations. (Ex. 34:7)
Ezek. 18:20 The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.

Is God good or evil?
Psa. 145:9. The Lord is good to all. (Deut. 32:4; James 1:13)
Is. 45:7 I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things. (Lam 3:38; Jer. 18:11; Ezek. 20:25)

Is God Peaceable?
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. (Luke 2:14; Acts 10:36)
Matt. 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth, I came not to send peace, but a sword. (Matt. 10:35-37; Luke 22:36)

Was Jesus trustworthy?
John 8:14 Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true.
John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

Shall we call people names?
Matt. 5:22 Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.
Matt. 23:17 (Jesus said) Ye fools and blind.

Has anyone seen God?
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at anytime. (Ex 33:20; Tim. 6:16; John 6:46; I John 4:12)
Gen. 32:30 For I have seen god face to face. (Ex. 33:11, 23; Is. 6:1; Job 42:5)

How many gods are there?
Deut. 6:4 The Lord or God is one Lord.
Gen. 1:26 And God said, let us make man in our image.(Gen. 3:22; I John 5:7)

Are we all sinners?
Rom. 3:23 For all have sinned. (Rom. 3:10; Psa.14;3)
Job 1:1 There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright. (Gen. 7:1; Luke 1:5-6)

When was Jesus crucified?
Mark 15:22 and it was the third hour, and they crucified him.
John 19:14-15 And about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out...crucify him!"

no answer because there is none. your religion is bs.

if god divinely gave man his word i dont think he would contradict himself that badly.

hail to thinking!

Wifebeating is wrong! It's a no s**t sort of thing. If you don't know it then you need to be killed.

You are supposed to love and take care of your wife. Not hurt her. If you are a wifebeater you deserve to be executed via impalement.

"Beware of/mistrust those in whom the urge to punish is strong" - Goethe, Nietzsche

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Get killed by Rommy

I could be Rommys wife for all you know.

Goethe was right!

I think she would kill you before she would marry anyone.

Raggy this is typical 1 dimensional Christian fanatic bull s**t. Islam does not preach any more hate or beating your wife than Christianity does, I personally don't believe in either religion but it's stupid and ignorant of you to act like Islam is the center of all evil just because they believe something different than you do.
There are Christian suicide bombers too, are we to assume that all white Christians are suicide bombers because of Eric Rudolph or Timothy McVeigh? There are people, both Christian and Muslim, and even atheist, who take their views too far. Raggy, your one of them. If a 3rd party jumped in tommorrow and stopped Christianity from being force fed to secular society through politics, people like you would most likely start blowing up buildings in the name of "jesus".
Who'se next after you've all destroyed the middle east? Asia? Theyr "evil" too because their budhist.

I also can't vote because I don't swallow a corn-fed ideology such as right wing or left wing, maybe you should put up an option for people who aren't afraid to hurt their brains a little more by actually thinking for themselves.

lets preach to the chior.

that means lets say whats obvious

Where is the modern Christian article that advocates wifebeating eh?