30 Dec 2007, 10:42 pm
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30 Dec 2007, 10:56 pm
31 Dec 2007, 8:26 pm
He was a mass murderer , and I don't know "why" people wear those shirts with him on them? 
He doesn't deserve the respect he has gotten,yet most people don't understand what he was or do not care. 
31 Dec 2007, 10:11 pm
31 Dec 2007, 10:19 pm
31 Dec 2007, 10:34 pm
snake321 wrote:
Heh, communism is becoming trendy now among left wingers, so you can see people are already being conditioned to accept tyranny.
Be prepared for the upcoming: USSR of America, formerly known as USA
31 Dec 2007, 10:41 pm
richardbenson wrote:
yes capalism is so evil! so im gonna wear my che tshirt. if its so evil, go live in china or cuba and see how you like it. 
i bet you wont be able to practice your religion openly
i bet you wont be able to practice your religion openly
The PRC is increasingly capitalist now. Try North Korea instead.
31 Dec 2007, 11:21 pm
31 Dec 2007, 11:46 pm
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
socialism is a major reason that some of these countries are poor.
How is that exactly or how that works? socialists say that that is the answer to poverty and even some non-socialists believe that capitalism is part of the problem, developed countries can't be completely without any form of socialism when poor people living in rural areas are concerned,
It is in my view that socialism being a cause of poverty would make more sense in a way than the other way around, but I would like to hear an analisys of how this could be the reason, I don't know much about this stuff
01 Jan 2008, 12:11 am
greenblue wrote:
How is that exactly or how that works? socialists say that that is the answer to poverty and even some non-socialists believe that capitalism is part of the problem, developed countries can't be completely without any form of socialism when poor people living in rural areas are concerned,
Let's just look at India and China, before they wanted to take a planned economic route. When they gave up, they became stars. How many of those "non-socialists" are really knowledgeable? Heck, the popular event is to blame capitalism for evil but never for good. Now, I am not taking a hard anti-government stance, only claiming that a market pricing mechanism will allow for better use of resources.
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It is in my view that socialism being a cause of poverty would make more sense in a way than the other way around, but I would like to hear an analisys of how this could be the reason, I don't know much about this stuff
Well, my simple analysis is that socialism doesn't seem to work but variants of a market economy do. Heck, when China began to succeed it had given up on its hard socialism stance with Deng Xiaopeng and instead began integrating markets into the economy. The eastern European economies are also having much success after socialism with a much more market based system. Now, I am not going to say that every former socialist nation is suddenly having massive success, but markets do seem to work better than Marxists.
01 Jan 2008, 12:11 am
greenblue wrote:
Be prepared for the upcoming: USSR of America, formerly known as USA
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. We have probably been heading that direction since FDR or earlier.
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01 Jan 2008, 9:01 pm
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01 Jan 2008, 9:29 pm
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Be prepared for the upcoming: USSR of America, formerly known as USA
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. We have probably been heading that direction since FDR or earlier.
USSA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_ ... tax_policy
Is that what you're on about?
It seems fair enough criticism, considering the statistics. Though a welfare safety net, at least, was, and is neccessary. He was faced with the dilemma of either waiting a while for the depression to pick up, or stop the worst of the depression from hitting the average citizen hard, by issuing welfare payments. Many people would have starved had welfare not been introduced. Really, the great depression teaches us that there should be buffers and security nets in place to prevent massive economic collapse on such a scale, and at such a rate.
