The Fall of Western Civilization

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I just hope that humanity can brave this storm in one piece, and that in the end, many of the deceiving scum are removed, one way or another. I also hope that the gap between rich and poor will lessen, and that more people will be well-informed and affluent. There are still many big fibs and untruths which most, if not all here believe, and many more secrets.

I think we are slowly falling right now but for different reasons. The 60's f'd us up big time. Since then our whole societal outlook and attitude has changed. There's a lot more entitlement attitude, a lot more in the way of us letting the world tell us what to think, and I think NAFTA and GAT have been brutal to us economically. Maybe free trade was inevitable but we haven't done anything we need to compensate it or keep our industrial base here. Anymore our society is going to be strictly service - either you have a professional skill or you'll be minimum wage cannon fodder for life.

On the bit with the Iraq War, maybe the enemies of the U.S. are getting what they want just in terms of draining our resources but the ugly part about it is we did get there before the U.N. weapons inspectors had left for good, before Saddam was able to bring back his WMD's and research nuclear, and it seems like much of the world is absolutely brilliant with playing the game of 20/20 hindsight almost to a degree where it seems like some sort of Jedi Mind Trick. If we'd had to do WWII again, with our present culture, we would have seen the results of Tunisia or Normandy and had such a huge public outcry that we would have pulled our troops back.

So in other words I don't really know that there would be a right answer no matter what we did right now. If we could somehow outgrow the lack of religious imposition and put what matters first in this world at the forefront rather than fashion and pop culture, if we could maybe institute a fair tax where we stop beating the hell out of corporations and ultimately let them produce more cost effectively in the U.S., if we could somehow deflate the dollar enough to encourage investment rather than divestment, maybe straighten out our trade deficits, we might actually have something.

The 50s and 60s definitely saw alot of cultural upheaval. The rise of "hippy" liberalism, but also a big movement against racial discrimination. But still, much unfair discrimination remains.

A massive world war would not be justified in the public eye unless there was major aggression.

The current generations in the developed world cannot stand loss of life. But sometimes people have to die to preserve some degree of security and the wellbeing of their fellow humans . One day most of humanity will learn that.

Another Vietnam, Bush would be out within a week. Most modern developed countries can only stand so many losses before it becomes unacceptable to the public. Unless the television crews were greatly restricted, there would be a MASSIVE public outcry. With the birth of the internet, there's not much of a chance of restricting the media.

It's true, techstepgener8tion, that many modern countries are screwed up to a big degree, but so are alot of developing countries.

"western civilization"
is a system created by a group of wealthy families that run the banks.
with terror and deceit through their tools like the media, movie industry, radios, magazines, schools, music and others, is that they are able to shape the minds of the masses, and there is where this "civilization" takes birth. from those people who have an idea called "New World Order", which is the final phase of "western civilization" which is nothing by a fake reality.

it is failing because people's consciences grow.

the next big blow from our part to them is Ron Paul.
already in South America we seeing growth and positive union taking place.
Asia grows, Russia grows, Iran cant be proven a threat and be attacked.

and as technology and communication advances things for the NWO will become worst, so lets not give up now. we almost got them.

Doesn't anybody realise that Saddam and his sons were the weapons of mass destruction?