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19 Jan 2008, 9:45 pm

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Determinism, non-determinism or free will.

Option 1: The universe is deterministic, and every event that ever happens is dependent only on the universe's initial conditions. Advocated by Newtonian and Einsteinian physics.
Option 2: The universe is non-deterministic (random), and everything is controlled by "dice rolls" beneath the surface of reality. Advocated by many interpretations of quantum mechanics.
Option 3: The universe is controlled by mind(s) (either ours or God's). Advocated by most religions.

I have no idea which is the right answer (or if there is only one right answer), and I believe anyone who claims they do is probably deluding themselves.


[threadjack]I'm a "Modal" or "Probabilistic" Determinist, a position based of the "Many Worlds AKA Parallel Universes" interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. So I'm a mix of #1 and #2.[/threadjack]


I a mix of the first two as well, but the more I read about modern advances in theoretical physics (especially Hawking and Witten) I lean more towards option #2. Either way it's delightfully eerie. 8)



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19 Jan 2008, 10:08 pm

Planck energy


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19 Jan 2008, 10:24 pm

Odin wrote:
NewRotIck wrote:
Determinism, non-determinism or free will.

Option 1: The universe is deterministic, and every event that ever happens is dependent only on the universe's initial conditions. Advocated by Newtonian and Einsteinian physics.
Option 2: The universe is non-deterministic (random), and everything is controlled by "dice rolls" beneath the surface of reality. Advocated by many interpretations of quantum mechanics.
Option 3: The universe is controlled by mind(s) (either ours or God's). Advocated by most religions.

I have no idea which is the right answer (or if there is only one right answer), and I believe anyone who claims they do is probably deluding themselves.


[threadjack]I'm a "Modal" or "Probabilistic" Determinist, a position based of the "Many Worlds AKA Parallel Universes" interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. So I'm a mix of #1 and #2.[/threadjack]


Pure #2. I don't even belief in the concept of cause. While we're jacking the thread... ;)

I guess I haven't contributed to this thread at all, so to avoid the obvious physical interpretation, I'm going to go with evil. There are many more ways that evil could befall people than there are good, so an evil outcome is more likely. Evil always prevails :twisted:

Either that or the pauli exclusion principle...


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19 Jan 2008, 10:29 pm

Knowledge


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25 Jan 2008, 10:12 am

a roundhouse kick to the face from Chuck Norris obviously, everyone knows that :wink:



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26 Jan 2008, 7:06 am

brfandan wrote:
Knowledge


Wisdom :P



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26 Jan 2008, 7:49 am

Feral-sapien wrote:
brfandan wrote:
Knowledge


Wisdom :P
Intelligence :nerdy:



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26 Jan 2008, 7:58 am

xyzyxx wrote:
Feral-sapien wrote:
brfandan wrote:
Knowledge


Wisdom :P
Intelligence :nerdy:


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29 Jan 2008, 12:04 pm

Either me or anarchy


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29 Jan 2008, 12:07 pm

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The universe... conscious energy... love... light...


Closely followed by
Stupidity
Compound Interest
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Fear

All of which I smiled at.


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29 Jan 2008, 12:30 pm

I always thought entropy was pretty nifty.

Those human emotion "forces" that people suggested don't make sense to me. Jupiter doesn't have emotions (as we understand them), but it is pretty goddamn awesome, in every sense of the word.



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29 Jan 2008, 3:37 pm

The media is the most powerful. because it can change the way we see and view things..


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29 Jan 2008, 6:01 pm

asplanet wrote:
The media is the most powerful. because it can change the way we see and view things..


that only works on idiots though.



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29 Jan 2008, 7:22 pm

Confused-Fish wrote:
asplanet wrote:
The media is the most powerful. because it can change the way we see and view things..


that only works on idiots though.


No, people. These are so anthropocentric. People are only in one very, very tiny part of the universe. We're actually rather insignificant.



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29 Jan 2008, 7:54 pm

Confused-Fish wrote:
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The media is the most powerful. because it can change the way we see and view things..


that only works on idiots though.

And thus, we can see that the most powerful force in the universe is stupidity.


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29 Jan 2008, 8:06 pm

Fear, definitely.