Is Vegitarianism a sin

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Here's my whole synopsis of the garden of Eden. Why did he put that tree of knowledge in there? Because he knew we'd eat from it. He knew that being innocent, Adam and Eve would just believe anything that anyone told them and wouldn't know who to trust over the other because, once again, they were innocent. I have a hard time believing the literalness of that one just because, maybe its just me, but that theory of sin when you look at it really doesn't show God as being a fair or empathetic judge (being all knowing he knew people's behavioral thresholds too).

The "garden of eden" story is an allegory. Why do people insist on taking it literally after more than two thousand years?

The act of eating from the tree cannot in itself be a sin, because until they ate from it, they had no concept of good and evil.

The point of the story is that with the duality of good and evil also comes life and death.

When good and evil are unified there is no death.

I never took it literally, and the main reason being that it only made sense as an analogy for a much larger concept. IMO, aside from historical accounts, thats what the bulk of the bible is.

They may not have had the general sense of good and evil that we now have, but they did know that eating from that tree was wrong, God told them directly.



Why do you insist it is an allegory? With an all-powerful God there is no reason why it can't be literally true. Now I don't expect you to take it literally, but I do expect you to let others take it literally without ridiculing them.

God may have told them but if they didn't have any sense of which master they were supposed to serve then they'd just go along with whatever the most proximate person told them. In that case, the serpent got to Eve and then Adam because even though God told em not to eat of that tree, I don't remember anything with God explaining that his rules superceded the serpents, thus they probably didn't know the difference between who's word meant more - that takes knowledge. To understand that you really have to try and imagine having no moral compass whatsoever and really not knowing up from down, left from right in that sense.

My mom once tried Atkin's diet, and I was losing weight rapidly. Sadly, it made her sick so we went back to our old routine. So for me, an all meat diet would work fine. Meat and veggies, yum!

Don't get me wrong, I definitely get my carbs in too. I'm just saying that getting 3 rounds of red meat a day, even though it might be bad for my heart, is what it almost seems to take for me to be functioning at tip-top neurologically speaking.

I find that I feel a lot better when I am working out and drinking lots of protein as well. It feels like my body is really tuned and doing what it is supposed to. I started drinking protein originally because I was vegeterian at the time, and I knew I would need to supplement if I was working out.

On a lighter note

I was just asking a semi-rhetorical question. Sorry if you felt I was ridiculing you. But really I have weighed both options and "alegorical" wins out with greater explanatory power.
Why do you think it is meant literally?

Ridicule was perhaps to strong a word, what I meant to say is that you dismiss the literal take too quickly.

Why do I think it is literal?

My take on the Bible is that it is what it claims to be, it is the inspired word of God and is wholly true. My interpertation of the text is that all the figurative portions (the parables and the like) are very clearly marked as figurative and the creation/adam and eve story is not marked as figurative, since I believe that God is all-powerful there are no reasons why it can't be literal and since it is portrayed as literal in the Bible, that is enough to make me believe it is literal. Much of Christian theology, including Paul's, absolutely requires all of Genesis to be literaly true.

Now, why do I believe the Bible is true? That is a much harder question to answer adequately, I believe it is true because I believe in God and the Bible seems to have led me to God.

Why do I believe in God? I have a few reasons, though none of them qualify as proofs, first of all is anecdotal evidence like apparent answered prayers, second there is creation itself, I have studied and I have found no plausible way that the universe could come into existence (nor develop the way it has) without an exceedingly powerful external being creating it.

On a lighter note

Is that a slight exaggeration Techstep, or are you really intaking over 4000 calories a day? again

Lol, I try not to take that many carbs in with it when I do. Usually it's me popping beef jerky along with 2 other meat-laden meals. Doesn't have to be a Big Mac or Whopper and to be honest I haven't touched anything like that in a long time.

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It might not have been a apple

Vegitarianism is not a sin. It is in the area of Christian liberty. Namely that you can be a vegetarian or not.

I guess it kinda could be a sin if you were living back in 10th or 11th century Mongolia. The Khans and their men saw farmers as moles and slaughtered them more ruthlessly than they did most people.

Very interesting.

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